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Decline in numbers... starting to turn into RAPID!!!

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Bellatrix Invicta
Doomheim
#281 - 2015-08-27 16:12:04 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Astral Azizora wrote:
Thanks to PLEX price this is one more account that won't be renewed in less than two weeks when my time is up.


You can't make 40 mil per day?

Really?

Isnt it more a question of having to do it every day, rather then doing the fun things in eve?
Plus ppl have more then one or two accounts often.


That's the thing.

You dont HAVE to do it every day. You don't HAVE to PLEX your account to play. Quit making it a grinder; it's only you doing it.

If you think you've won, think again.

The CODE always wins.
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#282 - 2015-08-27 16:12:34 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Astral Azizora wrote:
Thanks to PLEX price this is one more account that won't be renewed in less than two weeks when my time is up.


You can't make 40 mil per day?

Really?

Isnt it more a question of having to do it every day, rather then doing the fun things in eve?
Plus ppl have more then one or two accounts often.



And most people can't exactly log in every single day, and sit uninterrupted for an hour each day either.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#283 - 2015-08-27 16:16:29 UTC
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Astral Azizora wrote:
Thanks to PLEX price this is one more account that won't be renewed in less than two weeks when my time is up.


You can't make 40 mil per day?

Really?

Isnt it more a question of having to do it every day, rather then doing the fun things in eve?
Plus ppl have more then one or two accounts often.


Then do 80 every other day?

And multiple account should also multiply your income rate...
Market McSelling Alt
Doomheim
#284 - 2015-08-27 16:31:01 UTC
Bellatrix Invicta wrote:
ArmyOfMe wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Astral Azizora wrote:
Thanks to PLEX price this is one more account that won't be renewed in less than two weeks when my time is up.


You can't make 40 mil per day?

Really?

Isnt it more a question of having to do it every day, rather then doing the fun things in eve?
Plus ppl have more then one or two accounts often.


That's the thing.

You dont HAVE to do it every day. You don't HAVE to PLEX your account to play. Quit making it a grinder; it's only you doing it.



And that is the truth. You don't have to plex. If the game isn't worth spending the real life money to play, then don't play.

Plex is a crutch designed by CCP to keep you in the game even after you don't feel it is really worth the money to keep playing. Smart, but very much so a problem as well.

Plex is pay to win, or at least Pay to fail harder. Plex keeps people around who otherwise wouldn't be here, for better or worse. And Plex has led to instability in certain markets because of isk redistribution between classes of players.

CCP Quant: Of all those who logon in Eve, 1.5% do Incursions, 13.8% PVP and 19.2% run Missions while 22.4% mine.

40.7% Join a fleet. The idea that Eve is a PVP game is false, the social fabric is in Missions and Mining.
Salvos Rhoska
#285 - 2015-08-27 16:41:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
PLEX, if you can.
Sub, if you cant.

Reduce accounts, if necessary, accordingly.

Profit is not the end all of EVE.
Its just a means to an end (even if that is more profit).

Whats important, is you find a way for you to enjoy the experience the game offers.
Inversly, thats always been EVEs Achille's Heel and at the same time, source of its greatest strength.
(In typical Greek mythological fashion)

YOU decide.

Stay, or go.
Its no different anywhere else, than here...

GL finding anything else even remotely like this.
Few gamers have ever walked away from this without regret, sooner or later, and usually returning atleast once.
The thing is, its not so much the game itself you will miss, its the rest of us, playing it alongside you, and with you.

All of us glorious assholes, at our best and worst.
You were once like us.
You will always still have a home here, and a place, among us.

If not, can I have your stuff, please?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#286 - 2015-08-27 19:40:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentamon
The monthly sub model is as dated and useless as on the shelf game boxes.

CCP needs to appeal to players that can only spend $1 and a few hours a month and those that want to spend $1000's a month if they want subs to grow again.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Britney Fears
EVE Corporation 98582134
#287 - 2015-08-27 19:55:20 UTC
Hyperdunking made me quit eve.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#288 - 2015-08-27 19:56:32 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
The monthly sub model is as dated and useless as on the shelf game boxes.

CCP needs to appeal to players that can only spend $1 and a few hours a month and those that want to spend $1000's a month if they want subs to grow again.


I would give my right....(checks body parts) ....Arm for "PLEX coins" ie 1 1day/1week pilot licenses.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#289 - 2015-08-27 19:59:44 UTC
Coined alts? Once again, that would make it a plexed multibox game. Need to move caps, I will spend two dollars on my cyno alt/hauler whatever instead of having a multiplayer system.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#290 - 2015-08-27 20:00:57 UTC
Britney Fears wrote:
Hyperdunking made me quit eve.

Evidently not.

Grrr.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#291 - 2015-08-27 20:01:58 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Coined alts? Once again, that would make it a plexed multibox game. Need to move caps, I will spend two dollars on my cyno alt/hauler whatever instead of having a multiplayer system.


Those alts would create content though.
Britney Fears
EVE Corporation 98582134
#292 - 2015-08-27 20:06:00 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Britney Fears wrote:
Hyperdunking made me quit eve.

Evidently not.



Just lurking the forums 'till my subscription runs out.

If by any miracle I get reimbursed. most likelly not, I will stick around.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#293 - 2015-08-27 20:10:18 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
The monthly sub model is as dated and useless as on the shelf game boxes.

CCP needs to appeal to players that can only spend $1 and a few hours a month and those that want to spend $1000's a month if they want subs to grow again.

The monthly sub model, combined with expansions coming from that same expense, actually keeps me here in a way. I know that whatever functions the game has to offer are available for me to use in their entirety and further that there aren't restrictions imposed or experiences degraded for the simple point of attaching a price point to removing them (notwithstanding advantages of multi-account ownership/dual training).

There is no certainty that eve can strike an appealing $1/month experience with the game functioning as it does while leaving room for $1000/month opportunities.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2015-08-27 20:12:52 UTC
Britney Fears wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
Britney Fears wrote:
Hyperdunking made me quit eve.

Evidently not.



Just lurking the forums 'till my subscription runs out.

If by any miracle I get reimbursed. most likelly not, I will stick around.


The killboards show nothing. So I have to agree with Azda Ja: evidently not.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2015-08-27 20:14:54 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
The killboards show nothing. So I have to agree with Azda Ja: evidently not.

In a forum rife with posting alts I'm surprised at the thought a posting characters KB means much of anything.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#296 - 2015-08-27 20:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Sonya Corvinus
I never understood someone grinding to PLEX accounts. I pay $36/mo for three accounts ATM, I can 'grind' $36 IRL in an hour. How long would it take me to grind 3 bil ISK in game? A hell of a lot longer.

If I have enough ISK to buy a PLEX then I will save myself the $ IRL, but grinding in game specifically to buy PLEX? No thanks.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#297 - 2015-08-27 20:37:42 UTC
Britney Fears wrote:
Hyperdunking made me quit eve.

Well, if you are quitting Eve over the loss of a few imaginary items that only exist in a database somewhere then clearly you did not enjoy the game.

Best of luck in finding a game or pass-time you do enjoy.

The 8 Golden Rules of Eve

Why Do They Gank?
Odie McCracken
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#298 - 2015-08-27 20:40:19 UTC
Sonya Corvinus wrote:
I never understood someone grinding to PLEX accounts. I pay $36/mo for three accounts ATM, I can 'grid' $36 IRL in an hour. How long would it take me to grind 3 bil ISK in game? A hell of a lot longer.

If I have enough ISK to buy a PLEX then I will save myself the $ IRL, but grinding in game specifically to buy PLEX? No thanks.



Quiet, they think they're playing for free :) :)
Koebmand
Silverflames
#299 - 2015-08-27 20:43:34 UTC
Subs makes good games.

P2W does not - yes PLEX sucks, wish they would remove it from game.
Avvy
Doomheim
#300 - 2015-08-27 20:47:02 UTC
Koebmand wrote:
Subs makes good games.

P2W does not - yes PLEX sucks, wish they would remove it from game.


PLEX is here to stay, too much of a money spinner.

But anyway more games are starting to do similar.