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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#121 - 2015-08-18 14:09:01 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
I'm not familiar with that system. If it's up past Kehjari/Martoh in the Northern wastes of Black Rise, I don't think there's a whole lot up there. I think there was a calmil corp that lived in Hykanima, but they may have joined Exodus. That might work for your purposes though giving you some fairly empty lowsec to play with that's still in striking distance of the more interesting systems.

Jufvitte and Mesybier may be worth looking into also. Both are 0.5 systems not too far from Dodixie which border FW lowsec.

While living so close to eve uni or OMS/syndicate appeals to me we get the issue of en mass wardeccers having easy access which works just fine for me but I would never be able to sell living on the 'mainland' of highsec atm. I checked out that other island but it's fairly empty itself and I kinda want other people there. These guys are beginning to believe that there aren't any other people in eve that aren't in our corp Lol


Vlillilier would be my recommendation. Decent market, tons of stations so you can have one to yourself and not be camped too much, and it holds a pretty central location in the war zone. Wardeccers are allergic to systems that are orange on the map I'm told. I have a feeling if you move a 500 man corp there, people will keep the market stocked. It was a major Galmil hub but I'm not sure if any corps still live there since Bastard Cartel went pirate.

If it's Lowsec it's not on the cards. Only 1/2 the corp are PvPing all in all so the other half will not fare well there lol

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2015-08-19 03:21:31 UTC
What do the others do? If these are all new players, highsec missioning and mining are going to be laughable income sources. Not to mention mission hubs tend to attract war targets. I think PvE in a wardec magnet corp of that size would be more safely done in low or nullsec honestly.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#123 - 2015-08-19 07:46:33 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
What do the others do? If these are all new players, highsec missioning and mining are going to be laughable income sources. Not to mention mission hubs tend to attract war targets. I think PvE in a wardec magnet corp of that size would be more safely done in low or nullsec honestly.

But not the middle of a warzone Blink. And no its not more safely done in low or null a corp of this many newbies attracts hotdrops like you wouldn't believe. Unless you were in brave then you might Lol. Yah they mostly mission and mine for their income. Some only do those things but a good portion now do the PvP and defend their home when it is invaded by the evil wardeccers. What's been awesome lately is they are hitting the wardeccers back even when I'm offlineCool. But this is something an island provides is realative isolation from 90% of the wardeccers and our few more experienced players provide logistics. The thing I feel the corp is struggling with now is a lack of ability to move its wares out and its needs in as they have gone from clearing a couple of belts a day in ventures to clearing entire systems. The ones who only casual PvP on a weekend and actually enjoy making things or mining (I know I know but I swear on my ALT's they do) need something to do. Otherwise I'd say screw it base outta 4-4 and let people try and camp the undock Blink

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Auscent Issier
Doomheim
#124 - 2015-08-19 08:12:39 UTC
Following the flawed logic CCP also uses, the fact that most players who stay have lost a lot during the first month of playing, then you are right. Except that is the same logic used to prove Jesus existed.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2015-08-27 13:58:59 UTC
Bumping this to ask how the folks are doing.
Can anyone be kind enough to make a tl;dr update?
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#126 - 2015-08-27 14:16:12 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Bumping this to ask how the folks are doing.
Can anyone be kind enough to make a tl;dr update?

We are doing quite well (I wound up joining on Noragen which means it's got all my attention and loyalty now). The newbies are screwing up. Their all dieing in fires and explosions occasionally quite gloriously so I would have to say it's been a huge success. Ohh about to declare our first offensive wardec so that's something. Usual corp drama that happens from A a newbro corp and B a newbro starting a corp lol.

Most importantly people are still having fun dieing (with an occasional kill here and there) and we have 2 less then 2 month toons stepping up and tentatively leading fleets. I say op success so far. Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well Lol

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Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#127 - 2015-08-27 14:29:37 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well Lol


I've got a highish SP (100mil or so) alt that I never use, it only be once a week or so because Marmite is on a good roll as well.

But I'd like to help out. Let me know mate


Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#128 - 2015-08-27 14:39:33 UTC
Belthazor4011 wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Could still use some experienced FC's who are happy to just take fleets out without wanting to push opinions across cause that doesn't go down well Lol


I've got a highish SP (100mil or so) alt that I never use, it only be once a week or so because Marmite is on a good roll as well.

But I'd like to help out. Let me know mate



App up dude. If you want to setup a certain time hit me up I can make events and stuff. All help is appreciated

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Urutali Lafeal
Perkone
Caldari State
#129 - 2015-08-29 07:45:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Urutali Lafeal
If you would like to hear a story of what some of your kind donations went into, then here is a story for you!

So a merry band of weapon wielding spaceships set out to cruise the night clubs around Amarr. Like all good guests, plenty of warning was given to our future arrival at the Amarr Emperor Academy. Once everybody was sorted out with the space skateboard they wanted to show up in, we headed off to the club, of course, to be greeted by the bouncers PIRAT.

Obviously, the mandatory ID checks needed to be done, of which a PIRAT nestor was first chosen to inspect our ages by means of bullets. There was much back and forth, but it was decided that this nestor was not going to be our doorman of choice. So we were forced to speak with one of his companions in a guardian. Guardians apparently less capable of checking IDs. As the guardian fell further into armor, the fellow guardian and nestor of PIRAT docked up, of which one could only assume on their coms a nice friendly, "Hey, um, good luck with your aggression timer". The Amarr club unfortunately did not offer admittance to their loyal patron https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748462/

At this point all the club employees were inside drinking cocoa, except for a lonely wittle Navy Megathron. So we commenced to send him the comment card that his friends were all inside and there is cocoa. As he slowly lost his armor, everyone waited for the inevitable dockup. HOWEVER, plot twist ensues! Out of that oh so popular Amarr station pipe a majestic third party Megathron emerges. Upon seeing that the PIRAT megathron was not clad in matching spaceship skin, full megathron on megathron ramming speed commenced, not once, but twice! Now stuck outside of docking range, faced with an angry megathron bumping and lots of people asking to come in, PIRAT was forced to allow admittance!

The happyness to be allowed in could only be broken by an interjection saying, "Hey guys, I have 1.2 billion in my cargohold." For not only was https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748514/ a doorman, but a doorman that had to do his job fully accessorized. Even this was not the end of the tale, as upon inspection of the capsule nab, it was found that indeed, EVERYTHING must scream monies! https://zkillboard.com/kill/48748516/

Finally with all the guns quieting, Amarr could get down to business. Which was immediately Market Tycoon yelling to stop so he could go back to trying to make money off kill rights, followed by PIRAT engaging in cordial conversation such as, "GOOD JOB BRINGING 19 pilots you blohards", caps retained for accuracy. To be fair, it was more than 19. Once the kills started to be linked though, there could be only one final debate topic. Whether or not Bavisto disconnected.

The trial of the Bavisto disconnection was a heated back and forth 3 or 4 minute debate, with the defense stating because he was killed at all, it was obviously a disconnection. Which was countered with eye witness testimony that the pod was seen moving back towards the station before the contents of said pod were splattered all over the windshields of a nearby ship.

In the end, the real circumstances around Bavisto's death might never be known.

Oh, and there is no embellishing in this story, Amarr really is a club with bouncers.

Again, thanks for all the help we have received! As many in the fleet had less than 4 million skill points, this one got on the highlight reel.

Edit: To give full props, it is believed that Dan Daaman was the bumping megathron(kronos) who has a real thing for skins.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#130 - 2015-08-29 08:13:26 UTC
+1
Made me giggle a bit, well told.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Belthazor4011
Battle BV Redux
#131 - 2015-08-29 09:49:35 UTC
Nice one, they must have had a bad night then. Because it wasn't their fist lost battle on that undock that day Blink

Anyways a disconnect always saves the pod, so if you didn't have to scan it down with probes he didnt DC. Simple as that Cool
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#132 - 2015-08-29 11:38:26 UTC
It pleases me to se players so young demonstrating how this game is played.

There are about 15,000 Carebears in highsec who would have chosen to just petition CCP to eliminate wardecs and cried about the war.

I hope some of them see how a pack of newbros can hunt coyotes just fine... And feel a touch of shame for their efforts to destroy that core gameplay element.

While I can't deny that wardec mechanics are a bit messed up right now, there is plenty of fun to be had.

Good job for stepping up and giving PIRAT a wardec to regret.
No
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2015-08-29 11:53:11 UTC
Urutali Lafeal wrote:

...Story...


And then we put a number of POCOs into reinforce.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#134 - 2015-08-29 14:02:43 UTC
So to further majestify this truly amazing effort I was supposed to be heading this up but am caught up with a family thing atm and all I have is my laptop. Anywho they did this 100% without an experienced station gamers active assistance... That's right the more then 19 newbros mixed with vets mostly also from highsec bear life just turned PIRAT's **** inside out.

I will deposit 200 mil into the free ship fund btw if you contract me that corpse from the 2bil pod Blink

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2015-08-29 14:16:25 UTC
That megathron...why? Some people have more money than sense.

Must have caught them at the right time, would've expected far more logi backup.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#136 - 2015-08-29 14:20:23 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
That megathron...why? Some people have more money than sense.

Must have caught them at the right time, would've expected far more logi backup.

Outside of Russian time pirat really don't have that much logi. Hell they won't field it if they think there is a remote chance it could die tbh. Its why we now call bitching out PIRATing out.

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Deuce McGuilicuddy
Jebediah's Minimally Invasive Salvage and Recovery
#137 - 2015-08-29 20:03:28 UTC
Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#138 - 2015-08-29 23:28:12 UTC
Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:
Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up, and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game.

For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads

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Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2015-08-30 23:00:36 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Deuce McGuilicuddy wrote:
Oh, they had logi. Their Nestor had literally just docked up and I think they had a couple of guardians as well. It was a mix of a fortuitous bump from a neutral megathron pilot, fail station gaming on pirat's part, our FC calmly choosing and calling targets, and all our pilots doing their jobs properly. I'm proud to be flying with these guys, that was the most fun I've had in months in this game.

For sure they did. This is a ongoing conversation where demerius here is convinced everybody in high sec can field 10 guards a piece. Blojo however are flat out scraping up 5 logi. The rest of pirat can usually blot out the sun with 3-5 bil Nestor's. But don't mind us it's an argument that has spanned a few dozen threads


Sounds like they had logi and somehow failed horribly on communication. I guess that fits with everything else I've heard about PIRAT here.

3 Guardians or Nestors should have been unbreakable by what you guys had but they decided to bail and some good samaritan neutral bumper had other ideas.

The unexpected friendly bumper is a pleasant surprise. I had a hyperion kill once because a kindly gent in a Machariel knocked him off station so I could slowly burn him down with my Vexor. I think I sent that guy some ISK.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2015-08-31 00:29:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
From what I've seen of PIRAT so far, they're really good at docking up...

The exodus of haulers from Amarr when PIRAT dock up in the face of some opposition is quite the sight to see.

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