EVE General Discussion

Visited the drifter incursion systems last night. I can tell two things. Amarr navy is getting REKT over there and thus far any capsuleer force trying to intervene them has also been decimated by Drifters. There are very few people trying to do anything about it and most are just observing the new AI's behavior. Drifters and Amarr navy frequently clash in different parts of system, mainly at gates and Amarr ships at least drop semi decent loot, including faction crystals.


Did not see single drifter getting destroyed. I did see Amarr ship wrecks by hundreds, among with few player ship wrecks every now and then.

Also I learned that Khanid space is not as desolate as I tought. At least one player lives there.

Our corp will likely attempt some sort of engagement with drifters over weekend. We do not have manpower to stop them, but we might learn something at least..

Still curious, does the damage leak through overshields?
Could you hypothetically shield rep the drifters and keep them at 25% and then apply the DPS and kill them without triggering the DD?

Interesting idea, that would be tricky but maybe. Could be a loop hole to exploit.

Can the Amarr navy ships be repped or otherwise supported? Maybe the key isn't fighting Drifters, but helping Amarr fight Drifters.

It would seem to me one of the main enemies of innovation in the situation is "old incursion thinking".

Sansha do not need an income nerf, but a risk re-adjustment.

Sansha playstyle is (was) fun because we would lose ships occasionally in early days. But still made use of battleships and other high dollar hulls so a higher payout balanced well. Keep the payout, make em more challenging, engaging and a reason to clear em like what the drifters do. Sansha just need unpredictability. Incursions should have ships being scanned out as well if sitting in space ;-)

Back to topic, the more difficult part is that the supplying back and forth to current location did have pirates when I peeked. Will see much more information and trials when it hits highsec. Yeah... there is Sisi, but I would rather enjoy the experimentation with the risk that comes from using my main and isk. Also, that makes a person more on guard and attentive, forces the brain to work harder.

Good call!

Can Drifters be ECM jammed out?

So i heard ( it might be a troll) {i sort of hope it is a troll} that when a drifter incursion is undefeated for 1 week the system sov. flips.
If you don't have positive standings to drifters the stations are closed to you. Does anyone know how to get + standings with drifters?
When system sov. drops the incursion will spread to an adjacent system. Khanid was selected due to the low numbers of players living there. As they move into new areas we will either have to fight or leave...or say goodbye to our stuff. They will be heading both into high and low sec. If they arn't held somewhere they will own all of eve and the game will be finished.

I always love it when someone 'thinks' they are countering my argument but instead are actually throwing their full weight behind it instead. I said the people i was referring to had an innate personality type which causes them to stay in highsec their entire game playing time be that, 'minutes till rage quit', or years and years in the case of someone like myself.

YOU on the otherhand are referring to people who have an entirely different personality type that will eventually move to somewhere else in the game in due course of time. The people you are talking about were innately different than the people im talking about and playing video games has not altered either type of persons personality type in the slightest.

You cannot get, make, alter or whatever word you would choose to describe it, someones innate personality type with a video game, it has never happened and it never will.

But perhaps you should get a job working on CCPs dev team because you and they share this common but ultimately grossly incorrect perception of human personality types in that they can be changed if only you could get them, 'to see the light', about how awesome nullsec is. You will be doing the same thing CCP is, and has been doing for more than a decade, banging your head against an immovable wall totally confused as to why a certain type of person doesnt think and respond to the world around them as you do and never will.

Anything that gets SOV holders to fight for their SOV is a good thing even if CCP has to introduce pve content to make it happen. You cannot make non-agression pacts with a computer, you cannot make the computer afraid to lose trillions worth of ISK in ships. in short if the game must put NPCs into the game and ultimately turn nullsec into pve land in response to the pve game-playing style nullsec has brought upon itself then im 100% behind it.

We in highsec have been fighting NPC incursions for some time now and wont have a problem if the drifters come calling.