EVE General Discussion

Even when that behaviour is sucking the life out of the game?

I think it's awesome I can spend a tiny amount and get a ton of isk. Why not just pay for your account, they are not expensive.

Ok that's all good. Why are you complaining then?

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I think the guy on 30PLEX/month might be talking about expendable income, or perhaps his student/social support budget.
If not, I hope he manages IRL to find a more profitable job, as that is indeed very low for western standards of living, and I hope he can nonetheless play EVE alongside that, as a beloved, fun and affordable hobby. So many nights EVE has saved me from going out and killing my budget/liver in bars...

But anyways, back on topic.

I figure the PLEX price is mostly an "issue" for players with many accounts/multitraining habits.
It gets additively harder to PLEX past 1-2 accounts (in most of EVE activities anyways).

I think its still reasonable for most players, even with quite little time for gaming, to manage 1bil for 1 account, and 2bil for 2, if they are reasonably active ingame and commit atleast some bareable part of their limited gaming time to generating income.

(On the PLEX issue specifically, its more concerning that PLEX is not entering the market in the first place, rather than what the nature of demand ingame is, which is always very high.)

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On the positive side:

1) Less multi-accounts leads to more player commitment to those fewer accounts.
As in game entities, they become more prominent in the EVE universe. More "real", even in this virtual world, rather than just one faceless clone among many others. Its a kind of secondary and ephemeral value, that cant be converted to isk, but something that nonetheless always remains relevant in what is essentially a RPG.
Consider it "culture", if you will. It doesnt pay out cash, but it enrichens the experience.

2) More specialisation and getting better at doing the activities those specific characters do. Leading to streamlining, ingenuity and more creative solutions to doing those activities, thereby pushing the EVE envelope internally.

3) Less multi-accounts lead to a stronger incentive for interaction with other players, for better shared profits in their endevours.
It promotes more community, interaction, and arguably, more player sourced content. Less kids playing alone in the sandbox, and instead playing together with others in that same sandbox, towards greater goals and rewards.

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Furthermore, CCP can, if necessary, reduce sub costs (especially on the bigger package deals as %) or introduce more frequent and/or differing sub special offers, so as to retain more segments of the player population, with their varying payment proclivities.
Anything is possible in this regard, while still making profit (and hopefully more) for CCP.

Multitraining in particular, has the potential for cost adjustments (as it sits in an optimum position between RLM/PLEX alongside the limitations of only one pilot in space from that account at a time), and finding a sweet spot for a subbing player with nominally one account, to still feel he is getting some good bang for his buck, even though he either doesnt have time to earn isk for PLEX, or his ingame activities inherently involve very little profit.

Industry and trader players, in particular, would be very drawn to this, as many of their characters are very located and static, housed on one account, and can be cycled through in that players limited gaming time. I also would be encouraged to start a PI/production/research/trader account with multiple characters inorder to explore this (extremely complicated and daunting) side of the game, if multitraining options were incentivized by costs (Idea just occured to me, so I havent checked the current costs, and have never multitrained yet, so just a suggestion).

It's an average monthly salary in my country. Lucky I don't have kids, yet. It's abyss we are talking here (everything east from German border). It doesn't mean I live under the bridge. Think about Russians now, their currency is falling to dangerous levels.


CCP just increased them last patch (null pve changes). Anyway there are many ways to earn good money, few ways to spend it. I will propably change from PLEX to subscription in the future. Currently I have no items to spend on all that ISK I literally find.

Technically, they could also make the game worse to push plexers out of it. Then it should go down.

It's not that bad. 2,5 year of playing, toon with 45mil SP, and experience how to make ISK.
I don't have expenses, no alts, no pvp, so everything I earn-in game may be spend on PLEX. When not, paid time is not a big deal.

There's a huge inflation right, now caused by many factors. Still there are enough ISK to grab.

When I was paying a monthly subscription in South Africa, due to the exchange rate, it was the same expense as a week of groceries.
Now it is a bus ticket and a cider at the pub in the UK.

Isnt it more a question of having to do it every day, rather then doing the fun things in eve?
Plus ppl have more then one or two accounts often.