EVE General Discussion

Yes, perhaps, but it is still more fun in a brawling meta. In the golden age of the battlecrusier, stagnant as that may have been, it at least created more opportunities for good fights than the current age of kiting and non-committing, where people just take easy kills and run. Obviously people should play smart, but it has to be absolutely miserable as a new player when everything cruiser sized has such rapid lights or super strong drones, and can go incredibly fast compared to their tackle frigs. Battlecruisers at least gave new players something easy to learn to tackle on, as opposed to what people field today.

The crazy inflation of PLEX prices could be related to this. It would be interesting to see the amount of purchased PLEX (for isk ingame), as a percentage of total paid subs and see their evolution.

I reckon less people PLEX now because it's getting more and more expensive. I also reckon some people just stopped paying for their alt accounts, because a 1bill a pop, it's just not feasible anymore.

Patch hype. It's as if the normal bumps in price due to patch interest don't have quite enough time to reset in six weeks

I think CCP left it much too long before trying to fix nullsec. A lot of players patience finally ran out and they gave up on null 2012-14 and they ain't coming back.

Aegis sov has done nothing to address the glaring issues facing sov null, most of which are not due to mechanics but player behaviour, which CCP can do nothing about.

personally not played for about 4yrs now, buti still pay my £10 a mth and keep my skills goin

why you may ask.

well, my fave time in eve was when the record was around 11k max online, so i just keep my account active in the hope eve dies and it go's back to small numbers.

used to feel massive, now it just feels small and crowded.

so keep up the good work guys, looks like my dream is coming true(slowley but surely)

It's been tried; it doesn't work. It also doesn't address the problem you describe.

The above thing is stupid. About 2 weeks ago, I was ratting in Wicked Creek on one toon while holding my second character back to sit in a defense fleet (in a Caracal). A guy in a ceptor was flying around and some of my fleet mates had chased him. He landed in the Haven I was in and next thing I knew a cyno was up and several BLOPS came in.

I disconnected from my heavy drones, launched ECM drones, overheated my tank, starting neuting a blops all while calling for help on comms. My buddies (and my Caracal alt) landed and popped the ceptor, and a blops that was pointing me caught a lucky as hell jam from my Cetus ECM burst, and I warped that Mach out in 10% shields. The blops escaped after a short fight but also no 'good guys' died, so i count it as a win.

How in the flying **** is that not content?

Had it not been for the fact that I was terribly bored of incursions, I wouldn't have even been in null with that mach, I would have been on my alt in my other Mach making more isk in high sec, where cyno ceptors can't even get to me. By actually risking the ship with which I was making money with, I created a situation where other actual players could enjoy the game too.

You high sec apologists are way too selfish to understand why the above is proper and necessary in a game. This is why people like me win; If things stay the same, we still have safe high sec (and wormholes, and FW) to draw back to to make our isk to keep ourselves going. If things change (and people actually have to take risks to gain the kinds of gains they get now), it means that EVERYONE benifits.

The irony here is (as usual) high sec people are too dumb to understand that a proper balance helps them too (if null people can make a proper living in null , high sec people don't have to wait in line for incursion spots behind us because we aren't there, wormhole and FW guys would have to stare at all of our alts either, and renting lessens because we'd actually need ALL of our space, perhaps even opening up space for those mythical 'small alliances' we keep hearing about).

If nothing else, it seems to have had the effect of smoothing out the odd fluctuations that started to happen after Crucible. For quite some time, we had these (fairly consistent) 4–5 week periods where the daily PCUs would go from a minimum, up to a brief peak maybe 2,000 logins higher, and then go back down.

Nowadays, they tend to be more consistently going up or down over at least an entire patch cycle, often more, with only the regular and expected post-patch bumps breaking up that larger trend.

Who the hell made you believe a small group would be able to face a larger more organised one?

Population has fallen hard since B-R, after being basically static for five years (essentially bouncing around 50k on the eveoffline graph). That was almost the endgame of years of battles though, so perhaps understandable a lot quit after it.

ISboxer changes, skill Q changes, and less need for cyno alts with current state of caps probably exaggerated things.


At least they've recognised stagnation though, and are planning ahead to shake things up. Too many people just want things to stay the same forever.