Crime & Punishment

Can you back that up with numbers. # of ships ganked before and after his "rule", profits made, increase in non combat ships in the area? Also who voted for him? I didn't.



Sounds like no one realy did, nor did anyone vote on the terms of this "code". I do like that he called it a democratic process and then states he represented all the members himself. That is not democracy.

If you promote a healthy and prosperous under your false prophet than why are Ventures illegal and to be killed on sight?

I still contest that High-Sec is PVE as it is territory that belongs to the factions and not to the players.

You have to get to know your local gankers as there a mixed bunch. As it has been pointed out a lot are just alts of null sec players who just do ganking when things are slow out in null (largely because they killed off everyone else who went there). CODE is largely a bunch of hypocrites as they go after easy targets which are the newer players or those who just don’t really care about losing another barge. It is interesting to note that ice mining is becoming dominated by the isk farmers are mostly the alts of Null sec and CODE players with the big blob of 6-12 skiffs with an orca and freighter working gank free while the lone or small corporation players are targeted.
Sometimes you just become the target of a bunch dicks who just want to drive you out of the game so they can feel better, some who will war deck you if you actually have the nerve to fight back and others who will tell you were your going wrong and offer solutions.

Ganking is here to stay and can been worked around. Bumping miners is just a nuance you just have to adapt to. I do hate the way gankes exploit the log out to deny players any retribution. Hi sec is never going to be totally safe but if your mining or industry it’s the only place you can play in without becoming part of a large faction.

Best option is to get a Procurer and then if it’s worth it a Skiff but don’t forget to tank them properly. Check the kill board for local kills to I.D. the gankers then set then to bad or terrible standing so you just have to look for Red’s and orange popping up in local to know there around. Mine 7km+ above or below the belt you less likely to be warped directly too or any gankers will have to travel to you giving you time to warp out. The only active defence from gankers is ECM otherwise it’s a good tank and knowing when to leave the area.

There are some misguided players who think that the Procure and skiff need nerfing to reduce their hold capacity to make the choice of mining ship more varied while ganks of miners are at a record low this is largely because of CODE becoming victims of their own success. Most miners now get Procurers and tank them making ganks less attractive in the higher sec system. If they are nerfed it will only harm the lone players who will just have to unload more often while the big blobs just carry on as normal with their freighter just picking up the ore/ice.

You keep being told that your not playing the game properly and you got to go to null and PvP all the while.

There is no ONE way to play eve.

The amount of time you have to play and what you enjoy doing is the only thing that matters so if you don't like what happening just log out cancel you subscription and win by removing yourself from New Eden.
It will be a poorer and less interesting place without your presence and those who have driven you out will just complain about how theirs not enough players in the game and its all someone else's fault.

Revenge is cold as a dead server.

So what you're saying is, don't be an easy target. That's pretty much what we've all been saying for years.

Well, if you did not cast your vote then you are in no position to complain. In any case, if you failed to cast your vote James 315 voted for himself on your behalf, so you indeed voted for him. In this case you should feel good, you helped to shape the future of Highsec in a positive way.

If you have further concerns I recommend you to read the following articles where they are probably already addressed:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2012/10/a-perfect-election-perfect-democracy.html
http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/01/how-new-order-protects-your-democracy.html


See above.


They have a +2 warp strength bonus. If you manage to get killed with that in Highsec you obviously did not follow the Code. Ventures are also a nice target for new players. We all like new players and they need content too.


I am in Highsec all the time and all I do there is PvP, so you must be wrong it seams. The "factions" are just some EVE lore theme and it has nothing to do with the sandbox and the way players shape it. Maybe you just don't like sandbox games?

If that's true, then you shouldn't find any kills on my KB that you can't pull off yourself.

Agents of the New Order never lie: http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/08/kills-of-week_23.html (can't link the killmail here but it is on that page).

The rest of your post is a little harder to decipher. You seem a little agitated - I suggest you take a deep breath and calm down a little before responding.

CODE. clearly is still killing ships and is ranked among the top alliance in the game on the killboards. Miners are learning, and getting compliant with the Code, but it is a long uphill struggle and our work is far from done. Your theory that CODE. is simultaneously ganking more and less than in the past, and that CODE. has succeeded and yet also failed is a strange one I have to admit, but not rare among the common highsec miner. I have a theory that it results from the general confusion of being pulled out of the cozy single-player womb of an experience miners think the game is about into the cold, harsh dunk-tank reality of the sandbox. Their mining-addled brains have a hard time processing all this sandboxy stimuli and it takes them time to realize what is going on.

But often, once they get used to the new reality around them they see what the New Order is about and how they have been saved by them from a short, uneventful mining career before burnout. It is those reformed miners that touch this Agent's heart the most.

I do enjoy sand box games, a lot of them have very fun mechanics out side of KOS, greifing, ganking, bullying, trolling, ect. Right now all I can see are people who want to kill for the laughs. They hide behind this "chill out man its just a game" and "It's a sandbox game, I should be able to kill you whenever I wish." Most want that easy kill, the unarmed mining barge/frigate trying to make a few ISK, the freighter who just went through a jump gate trying to move his goods. I have said before that the good thing about EVE is it has a place for everyone to do their thing. If I do not wish to partake in PVP i have a place to do it. By forcing everyone to PVP you remove the sandbox nature and as stated it become:





If EVE is a sandbox game it can not be a purely PVP game. If it were a purely PVP game there would be no need for any kind of PVE content. This game thrives on a player ran market, where players create the products that are used. PVE miners are needed to get the materials for these products. A PVE miner is the back bone of this system. I will say that for a PVE miner to truly get the best ores they must enter the dangerous low-sec to reap the valuable asteroids.

I believe that if you aid in the destruction and death of a player in High-Sec CONCORD should destroy your capsule. Increase the risk and danger of attacking the defenseless is secure space. I will say that I agree that when I step outside of any space station I place myself in danger, however the level of danger should be comparable to the security level of the system I am in. if I am in a 1.0 space I should be vastly more safe than if I were in a 0.4.

Resist the Code!
Peace and Freedom for High-Sec!

Even miners fight over the resources and the ability to mine quicker and more efficiently than someone else.

As a sandbox style game it does fall down slightly in terms of the market as equipment and ships are player built someone is needed to mine for the minerals to aid in their construction. So if nobody wanted to mine, PvP would start to grind to a halt and some of those not wanting to mine would have to, eliminating the choice involved.

Although it might not be perfect, it's still a PvP style sandbox.

It can and it is.

I've always gotten a giggle about how it's the very specific blowing other ships up PVP that the carebears rave against.

Outplay someone on the market and make billions of ISK off others, that's cool.
Run PI in a cheap system, freight the results elsewhere, and undercut the market, that's alright
Cherrypick the ore in a region, forcing other miners to waste time traveling to new areas to find miners, no prob.

In their minds, none of that counts as "PVP", because there's enough steps abstracted between the gain they get, and the damage they do.

Now, directly blowing up a ship, that's awful horrible PVP and people should be ashamed....nevermind that you can cause a helluva lot more negative impact to a much wider group of players with my above examples.