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Tsukino Izumi
Space Monkehs
#1 - 2015-08-25 20:57:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Izumi
hey all, returned to the game a few days back and joined some friends doing wormhole PVE.

the group i am with generally work in a gang but i am completly stuck with what ship to use. i only have skills to fly the basic minmatar ships (up to and including battleship) and can use T2 projectiles up to medium havn't quite got large yet. My group are mostly doing c3 and c4 wh.

I am completely out of the loop with this game as last time i played was about 2009. from what i am reading minmatar ships have been nurfed pretty hard and whenever i look up fits for ships all i'm really seeing is fly caldari lol. I am currently working on getting a svipul but in all honest i have no idea what to fly as when i last played the hurricane was THE ship to fly.

any help from anyone as to what ship/fit would work to join my corp PVE in WH would be awesome. thanks alot
Austneal
Nero Fazione
#2 - 2015-08-25 21:04:12 UTC
I used to have pretty good luck running C3s in a Loki. It may not be the most efficient ship to do it with, but it definitely had no trouble tanking the sleepers.

It's only real downside seemed to be getting the sleepers into autocannon range. (Not super hard, just a bit of a drawback compared to missiles)
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#3 - 2015-08-25 21:37:31 UTC
loki can always use webs and target painters so the rest of the gang hits harder. I've seen clips of vargurs soloing sites. not sure if it was a c4 or c5.

beyond that I don't really know much about wh pve.

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Tsukino Izumi
Space Monkehs
#4 - 2015-08-25 21:41:19 UTC
sadly i am about 3 weeks off just being able to fly a loki but that is my ultimate goal
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#5 - 2015-08-25 22:54:38 UTC
Tsukino Izumi wrote:

I am completely out of the loop with this game as last time i played was about 2009. from what i am reading minmatar ships have been nurfed pretty hard...


Nope. Minmatar has been left alone for the most part, everything else has just been buffed.

Tsukino Izumi wrote:

in all honest i have no idea what to fly as when i last played the hurricane was THE ship to fly.


Thats the thing, since everything has been buffered to a more level playing field there isnt one ship leagues better than the rest (For the most part).

So, with those points out of the way. Do you run any specific WH types or specific tank type?
Mikkir
SHINKETSU Inc.
#6 - 2015-08-26 05:33:45 UTC
Aerie Evingod wrote:
Tsukino Izumi wrote:

I am completely out of the loop with this game as last time i played was about 2009. from what i am reading minmatar ships have been nurfed pretty hard...


Nope. Minmatar has been left alone for the most part, everything else has just been buffed.


I thought the tracking enhancer falloff nerf was what killed most of the minmatar ships?
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-08-26 06:34:45 UTC
Tsukino Izumi wrote:
sadly i am about 3 weeks off just being able to fly a loki but that is my ultimate goal



If I were you I'd train for the Sleipnir, it's still fairly good. If you're looking for something right away then train for the Loki. The webs alone justifies the Loki's usefulness in WHs.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-08-26 07:48:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Mikkir wrote:
Aerie Evingod wrote:
Tsukino Izumi wrote:

I am completely out of the loop with this game as last time i played was about 2009. from what i am reading minmatar ships have been nurfed pretty hard...


Nope. Minmatar has been left alone for the most part, everything else has just been buffed.


I thought the tracking enhancer falloff nerf was what killed most of the minmatar ships?


It was quite a few things lol but that was definetly one of them.

Depending on what you lot run.... you can use tornados with scimi support to run C3's pretty sharpish (Oracles are used more often due to LAyzors.

Your best bet is in a support role until you hit large weapons (need the range) Huginn or scimi are good (loki isnt needed for C3's)

No Worries

FT Cold
FT Cold Corporation
#9 - 2015-08-26 08:39:26 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Cold
Arty munin will give you the range you want to hit sleepers, but it's got terrible tracking, low DPS, and it's not very tanky. As other people have mentioned, the scythe, scimi, and huginn are excellent support options if you can't fly a loki. You could also fly a bellicose and slap a TP and some HM launchers on it if you want to go el cheapo. It's not great, but it's better than chasing after them forever in an autocannon ship.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-08-26 12:27:21 UTC
For C3 solo:

Ishtar (has to be slightly bling)
tengu
any command ship, though sleipnir and eos are the better ones
rattle
gila
drake (you may want to kill yourself over how slow this is though)

C4 solo:

Marauders
Rattle
VERY BLING tengu (may also want to kill yourself over the speed)

Everything is better with friends though and you'll find RR ishtars, domis, etc completing sites more than twice as quick as a solo player since much of the time (especially in c4) is spent breaking reps
Tsukino Izumi
Space Monkehs
#11 - 2015-08-27 16:29:50 UTC
in all honesty i have only just come back to eve i know next to nothing about WH. my group have just told me they do PVE mostly and asked me to join them.

i have just got the ability to fly a svipul but most of the fits i am finding show it with 6 guns where it only seems to have 4 now. would one of these be good to join them? what would be a good fit for it?

of the ships mentioned only the scyth and bellicose i can actually flt.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-27 18:23:00 UTC
svipul does work with logi but it's a little low on dps compared to cruisers and above.

Svipul was rebalanced a few months back and one of those changes involved dropping it down from 6 guns to 4
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-08-27 22:26:32 UTC
Strange you are here but not discussing same issues with friends. What ships they are using to run those wh's. Why don't you stick to the same path as they are and train your corp fleet ships. Loki is fine you deff should train that. And i would just recommend and try Angel ships, or fleet issue ships since you are minmatar focus pilot.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#14 - 2015-08-28 20:55:41 UTC
I read the thread title as "stuck on ships", so I was expecting something like "Hooked on Classics"



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