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Dethlias
RCFNTDC
#1 - 2015-08-25 17:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Dethlias
Hey guys i'm new to exploration and i got one of these and was wondering what amount of tank is needed at what % resists is needed to do this? Did some research and saw some people have a problem tanking this and wanted to make sure i had a ship that could do this. I can fly anything with near perfect skills that can fit in the gate so fi you have a fit also for something let me know.

Edit: I would perfer something cruiser sized due to lowsec and only t2 fit
Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-25 19:32:50 UTC
watch this video by jonnypew it may help you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIS8v1vVQxw

"If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence you ever tried"

"If your boss is getting you down, look at him through the prongs of a fork and imagine him in jail"
Dethlias
RCFNTDC
#3 - 2015-08-25 19:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Dethlias
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
watch this video by jonnypew it may help you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIS8v1vVQxw



It does and it doesn't, he said he had about 600 tank with his fit at the start i put what i could see of the fit into EFT and it only has 458, asumming two kin hardeners 1 medium t2 booster and boost amp. So don't see what he is talking about there. Secondly im wondering what it would actually take to completely tank the last room.

In his first attempt he could have tanked alot better by killing the webifiers then moving and it might have held would be good to know that, his second attempt was much better and had about 705 tank vs guri, but then the comparisson was slightly ruined by him moving and killing a webifier still seemed to be holding up much better.

Im wondering if a gila fit with 2 kin 1 therm hardener, 1 t2 sheild booster/amp which has a tank of 701 would be able to completely tank the last room (assuming killing the webifiers and ABing around) and if not would it be able to gib the overseer (don't have to worry about jams) in time to warp out.

Im assuming a guri tanked tengu would do just fine by the looks of it.


the video helps but doesn't really answer my overall question, how much would it take to tank the whole last room? i can always fly a 1.2k guri tanked ishtar x.x but just want to know the base tank needed to actually complete the last room.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#4 - 2015-08-25 20:49:14 UTC
Dethlias wrote:

It does and it doesn't, he said he had about 600 tank with his fit at the start i put what i could see of the fit into EFT and it only has 458


With the two hardeners overheated it is 640 or so.

The travel time of the Gila's medium drones can be problematic in the last room of this site. I don't know if 700 tank buys you enough time to wait for the drones to move to each tower and then take out the overseer. Gank overseer and warp out, maybe. I dunno. Try it, I guess. The last time I tried running a lowsec 5/10 with a Gila I had to warp out and run through all the gates again 3 times. Heh. Ishtar with sentries is the easiest way to deal with that room. Or a Stratios or cloaky T3, cloak while in warp to last room then slowboat up to the overseer under cloak.
Dethlias
RCFNTDC
#5 - 2015-08-25 21:36:59 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Dethlias wrote:

It does and it doesn't, he said he had about 600 tank with his fit at the start i put what i could see of the fit into EFT and it only has 458


With the two hardeners overheated it is 640 or so.

The travel time of the Gila's medium drones can be problematic in the last room of this site. I don't know if 700 tank buys you enough time to wait for the drones to move to each tower and then take out the overseer. Gank overseer and warp out, maybe. I dunno. Try it, I guess. The last time I tried running a lowsec 5/10 with a Gila I had to warp out and run through all the gates again 3 times. Heh. Ishtar with sentries is the easiest way to deal with that room. Or a Stratios or cloaky T3, cloak while in warp to last room then slowboat up to the overseer under cloak.




Not counting overheat because i want to know the actual tankage over the time it would take to do the whole room. For the 700 tank gila i would only really need to worry about travel time between the webifiers, are they far apart can't tell from video? Also for the ishtar do the rats switch to the drones so that i have to orbit them or can i drop and move away?

But might just take a tengu with a mobile depot and switch to tank and gank when i get there. still would like to know the tank amount needed for this because if i can get just enough i would like to fit a TP for the smaller hulls instead of overtanking.
Dethlias
RCFNTDC
#6 - 2015-08-26 00:23:20 UTC
Well ill do one tonight and test the tank needed out and if i find a good number ill post it incase anyone is interested, just can't believe no one has recorded "This is what you need to tank it" in the years this game has been out, couldn't find it anywhere.
Dethlias
RCFNTDC
#7 - 2015-08-26 05:15:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dethlias
Having done one now for myself, the last pocket is a joke just kill the webifiers and im sure 600-700 tank will be fine as long as you are have an AB and don't have a huge sig from passive tanking (i dislike passive tanking alot). The talk i heard about this complex was overrated.
Matt Benneth
Strictly Moral Support
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#8 - 2015-08-26 11:58:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Matt Benneth
For first and second room i use this gila setup:

[Gila, Guristas]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field

Drone Link Augmentor I
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Guristas Scourge Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Guristas Scourge Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Guristas Scourge Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


This gives you about 570 dps tank, more than enough.

For third room just replace afterburner with Gist X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field and add another shield power relay to lows. That will give you almost 1.2k dps tank.
When you warp to 3rd room send drones only to officier and align out to warpout. As soon as he is dead recall drones and bookmark his wreck and come back 2 minutes later to scoop the loot. No need to kill towers or anything else.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-08-29 14:08:13 UTC
The answer to all PvE related questions is "Ishtar." If in doubt, Ishtar.

It is known.
Sporx Utensil
Colossus Enterprises
#10 - 2015-08-30 17:48:29 UTC
Ishtar Online