EVE New Citizens Q&A

CCP are well aware of this, and have been since 2003. They purposefully designed Eve to appeal to a small subset of MMO players.

In the real world you're not an immortal, in the real world you can evade the long arm of the law. If you want to see CODE.s operations interfered with then it is up to you to do the interfering, you can shoot most of them in the face with zero repercussions from NPCs.

Hisec is somewhere where aggression comes at a cost, it's not meant to be safe for anybody.

There's plenty of games out there that cater for the newer generation, there's very few out there that cater to us older folks. Eve is where you come when you're bored of buying sequels and expansions while constantly being spoon fed the same old content time and time again.

They have a spot, there's several solar systems in Eve where futzing with newbies results in being slapped by CCP. I agree that newbies should be warned that when they play Eve it is an environment that is harsh on the ignorant and the weak.

This is in no way an argument to change the game's difficulty.. It's basicly saying, newbies need some kind of grace period to get up to speed..

I just recently restarted playing after being away for 4 years, so I'm still getting back into it. But I am not talking for my own benefit here. I don't make money in HS, I only sell loot there and I know how to do it safely.
I joined a very small corp, with quite a bunch of noobies and they all say the same thing, why would I sub f I can't even do the most basic of things without getting destroyed to ****.

Indeed CCP should not promote boring mining. But give noobs a chance to taste pvp atleast, make it so that they can join the Navy, give them some t1 fitted frigates and send them to systems with a bunch of other noobs in t1 frigs.
You can't expect noobs to just pay for a frigate to then get it blown up after 5 seconds (which will definetly be the case) Give them some frigates for example in a region with a station that only hands out frigs but u can't take em out of that region. That would make for some good fun for noobs.

Face it if you're a beginner pilot, you don't stand a chance in low sec. (I know there are youtube vids that state otherwise but those guys already have a ton of exp.) You need fighting experience to be able to do something, getting fighting experience as a noob is superhard if you have to pay for all frigates u lose. Mining is the fastest way for noobs to make ISK. That's why they mine
if you can't mine cuz of ganks => you can't pay for new frigs = > no combat exp => no chance.
join a corp for safety? => get wardecced for fun => same deal.


I'm not saying my solution is great, heck it might even bad, but if you don't do ANYTHING, I am sure not a lot of new players will join.

You're slowly but surely destroying the game by harassing new players just because you don't have the balls to go to low/null-sec.

They already do. Harassing new players in these systems

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems

is not allowed. That's the grace period.

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The trouble with CODE members is that they suffer no real repercussions aside from losing a ship they already planned to lose.

insta undocks make them pretty much uncatchable out of a station.
insta warping pods along with instadock BMs make them *almost* impervious whilst travelling around highsec - and since the clone update cost was removed there's no financial loss even if they do get smartbombed, they'll just have to restart their journey.
Neutral alts mean they're financially stable and able to keep fully stocked on ships.

I thought eve was supposed to have consequences for your actions.


That said, I have no issue with highsec being dangerous - although certain gank mechanics are a shade imbalanced in favour of the aggressors (neutral bumping machs - like a guy on a busy street pushing wealthy passersby into an alleyway to get mugged by his mates and remaining ignored by the police.)

The CODE. Alliance are those consequences.

Just to add some useful content to this thread, what you just said is equivalent to "at a rate of miles per hour" or "at a rate of meters per second". IE it doesn't actually tell you how fast.

You'll have to worry about them when you let your guard down and expose yourself to them.

That is exactly why CCP has enabled criminals to operate in highsec - to serve as a risk, and a consequence, for players not protecting themselves, going AFK, or fitting for pure yield/cargo.

Sounds like you are doing things right and not committing these highsec faux pas. Keep on following the Code like you are and you have nothing to fear in highsec from CODE. or any other suicide gankers. However, if you choose not to protect yourself, there will be consequences for your (in)actions, which very likely could be delivered by a CODE. Catalyst.

Calm down, miner - let's try to keep the personal insults out of this shall we?

And I have repeatedly told you, criminals are the risk in highsec. How can you have player-driven risk if you make it impossible for players to effect that risk?

Besides your premise is flawed - gankers suffer many mechanically imposed repercussions including ship loss, kill rights and security status loss, not to mention the significant risks that they may not succeed in a gank nor successfully retrieve the loot. There is no guarantee of success or profit, and of all the forms of PvP, suicide ganking is the easiest form to defend yourself against thus totally dependent on your opponent making a mistake.

You can easily make gankers unable to pursue their activities by just paying attention and fitting sufficient tank. Ganking is only profitable for the gankers if you make it so. You literally hold all the cards. How is that at all unbalanced?

Okay, now I'm offended. I am eloquent, intelligent, funny and quick. You should come to Uedama sometime when I'm there. I've been told by some that I'm the single reason they dock up and read local. I have parts 1 and 2 out of 3 of a current arc on www.minerbumping.com right now, "The Newbie Brothers".

My own material. *scoff*

Be a Gallant, not a Goofus.