EVE General Discussion

Heh, being picked up by Intrepid Crossing would be interesting that's for sure...

self proclaimed prophets of EVE, teach us, show us why you are right, so we can listen once then forget it as quick as we can, we've better things to do than read the screams of doom within every post you can ram one in.

a reset would mean nothing! the leaders we have currently throughout the alliances would just reform within 24 hours and take their shite back, within 6 months they'd be more or less in control of what they need, within 1 year they'd be right back on track.

or do you guys believe everyone will follow you and you can create a much better empire than everyone else.
ya know we've all had our fair share of wannabe leaders and backseat fc's who always know better than everyone else.

so let's try keep in mind how this relationship works yea

CCP provides the sandbox.

WE the players provide the content.

you can't reset this sandbox without removing the content providers (the players)

so yea,,,, you wanna take a guess on what i think of that bolloxology

Should EVE online be reset?

If it was I wouldn't lose much in terms of sp, in fact it could benefit me.


But to answer your question, no, it should not be reset.

Main reason being the game evolves, player empires come and go the history is made by the players. If you reset, when would you reset the next time after a year. If you reset one time there's nothing stopping you from resetting again at a later date.

Forgive me if I am repeating an already proposed idea - I did not have the patience to sit through and read all of the posts in this thread.

This is a tough one. I think a hard reset would be a bit of a kick in the face to seasoned players, however what about introducing a massive event in which high-population 0.0 space is assaulted by an almost overwhelming force? Let them go down in a blaze of glory rather than just resetting everything.

I can't answer that without directly violating a forum rule (damn those rules). At the same time i realize that a person of your...beleifs.. won't accept it anyways, I've never known a "oh your poor victims" type to ever change their minds about anything, even when it's clear that while you types might mean well, what you end up doing (in real life, maybe even in the game) ends up hurting more than helping.

If you look at the basic, core, underlying reasons for 'fozzie-sov' (basically trying to 'stick it to the man' and 'level the playing field for the small guy', both of which have failed), you'll see a very clear in game example of what I'm talking about.

The perpetual 'small guys' and 'solo' types are people who lack the personal tools , will and motivation to become the (or join existing) 'big' guys (and then blamed this internal lack on an external situation.. the sov system....), no amount of gerrymandering SOV can deal with the actual problem (which is the INTERNAL preferences of the 'small guys') while the attempt to do something has done little but discourage a good number of 'big group' players who previously were perfectly at home in null (despite their complaining about 'blue donuts' and 'stagnation') because fozzie sov is just 'imported FW'.

A Reset would be the same thing,. only more extreme. The people who fail now (and blame it on 'entrenched wealthy bitter vets) would be the same people in a rest EVE as they are now: Willing to blame outside forces for failures that come from inside (them) thus never learning the lessons of their failures (which is a key to success). Their habits would lead them to the same end state: fail.

Meanwhile, in Reset EVE, the people who are rich and powerful (and got rich and powerful by being not just ruthless and cunning, but also responsible and accountable, at least to themselves) would just find new ways to stick it to the above mentioned stupid/victim types, and within less than a month the old status quo would return, with Haves having and Have-nots blaming stuff that has nothing to do with why they are have-nots.




TL;DR, people don't change, changing the crap around them is meaningless. You can take a hood-rat out of the ghetto, you can't take the ghetto out of the hood-rat.

This whole idea is undermining the validity of SP as a problem for gameplay. Last I checked, the best progression in a video game (especially an MMO) is not money but gameplay. It's of very little conversational value that corps would rejoin in a reset, except that there is very little cause for one beyond advertising and increased competitive gameplay (little, because the same effect can be accomplished by SP disappearing).

Fresh, non-stale gameplay is an SP problem.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5990619#post5990619

The real problem is they never accept that this is the problem. No matter how you explain it to them, it's never the real reason.

OK, but that's no gameplay. Thus, the positives of being rewarded for non-play provide no explanation for the negatives from limitations *on* play.

Well, this will solve herontocracy problem for a time being. Also, this will help to get rid of gimmicks like t2 bpos and finally ditch abominations like mines.
There are few concerns though.
1)"Community-borns" (Gewns and other big meanies) will get back in power in no time, meeting no match outside other "community-borns". Because most of their comms are outside the house anyway.
2)Wild market fluctuations unprotected by any kind of buffer. Who will prevail? Again, big meanies like gewns.

Eve is long overdue for a new engine. All they can do is reskin old mechanics, and call it "new content"

New engine first, then reset.