Missions & Complexes

I like to put in one remote armor rep. You can fix your drones on the fly.

Thats a good idea. It helps to have a hull repper in your inventory as well that you could switch to in case you REALLY don't get your drones back in time.

guess i'm doing something wrong, since i'm getting more DPS out of the launchers than the drones
[Rattlesnake, Rattling]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Drone Navigation Computer II
Republic Fleet Target Painter
EM Ward Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II

Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II


Gecko x1
Hornet EC-300 x5
Wasp II x2
Berserker II x2

Inferno Fury Cruise Missile x2500
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x2105

may be the implants, that toon has some 5% missle ones stuck netting around 1.6k DPS, 830 from the cruises.

Ok, on a missile only ship i would use other rigs/more painters.
But on the rattle i use the cruises against the BS & BC NPCs only, so no need for further application and a Gecko deals with the smaller stuff just fine.

If you're just sticking to larger targets, yeah - a single rigor is probably fine for Fury ammunition. You always have the option of switching to Precision for cruisers as well. Geckos are not bad against destroyers and cruisers, but I find that even with a tracking-speed scripted omni they miss against frigates quite a bit.

Honestly, if you're going strictly drones you're better off with something like a Dominix.

Here is my active tank Rattlesnake. This is way over tanked for LVL 4 missions and it does 1400+ DPS with my skills and implants. It is a little on the pricey side but I got carried away trying to squeeze as much DPS and tank out of it. The jump drive is in case you fall asleep and wake up in structure. The fit works like this: Warp to zero and blap. Ignore the frigs until last and use you Gecko or use Wasp if you are worried about losing Gecko. If you take damage, shield boost. By the time your shield damage is past half way again, you will have regen'd almost all cap so boost again. This ship can do Angel Extravaganza bonus room sitting at zero and no sweat. You can probably do DED 8's with this thing but I haven't tried. It is a beast.

[Rattlesnake, ✦ FI ]

Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Cap Recharger
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Large Micro Jump Drive

Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Gecko x1
Hornet II x15
Caldari Navy Wasp x2

Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile x4519
Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x880

I understand that the explosion radius is higher than ideal and the explosion velocity is slower than ideal but the sheer amount of dps I get from this melts the cruisers and above. I ignore the frigs until last and then use hornets to take them out. To get the perfect application of damage and the amount of DPS with tank, there is not enough slots. Something has to give. I do sacrifice the radius and explosion velocity for high dps and it works for me. The damage application would only effect cruisers and below anyway. The majority of time grinding is on the BS's and HAC's. The high volume DPS overcomes the BS grind.

I have tried many different setups to increase damage application and I found this one to be the most efficient. Most of this fit was taken from a couple of guys ganked in Nullsec by the WH corp my main toon is in. The jump drive can be removed to increase damage application since it is for insurance only. I never use it. Can add a TP, omni-directional tracking link, or one of the new missile enhancement mods. The TP will give more benefit than the new missile enhancement mods.

This fit is entirely way over tanked for lvl 4 missions in HS so I may try the passive shield regen posted earlier but I am leary of those because there is no burst regen like a booster gives.

I do use a lot of implants that assist in damage application also.

Anize is right, evidenced by the fact that you have to switch out drones to kill frigs. Switching takes time and missions are about time.

Lots of people get seduced by "paper DPS" (I sure as hell have), but if you add up all the time you are killing cruisers and frigs, you mostly see that being able to kill BS sized NPCs (though gratifying) isn't actually worth it.

On your fit for example, you'd see a noticeable improvement if you used 2 less damage mods (one of each type) and added 2 low slot drone and missile application mods. A gecko actually doesn't need much help to kill frigs and cruisers (especially if you move, forcing them to break orbit all the time).

Personally, for missions, I use Rapid Heavies instead of cruise (and my rattlesnake fit is dual propped and active tanked I can mjd or mwd where ever I need to go) and use those heaviers to sweep the field of small ships while my gecko kills Battleships without me haivng to pay any attention lol. Smaller ships are more of a threat to my gecko anyways, so they die.

And to be honest, your "Snake is gank bait will all that bling on.


Here is mine.

[Rattlesnake, Jennasidal Maniac]
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Shadow Serpentis 500MN Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

Gecko x1
Gecko x1
Berserker II x2
Hornet EC-300 x5
Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile x4519
Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile x3000
Scourge Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I x2500
Inferno Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I x2500


Cap Stable with prob mods and heavy neut off (with good cap skills, I also use a cap hard wiring in slot 6), with missile hardwirings it does 1400 peak dps (about 1200 sustained dps), it applies damage to cruisers and below very well, dual prop means I can get anywhere quickly, and the mjd is still 'insurance', I included FoF missiles for Guristas missions.

The above fit is also 33% or so cheaper than the one you posted. ecm drones are there to deter ganking. Heavy neut is there for the same reason, and also it has a chance of keeping npcs from repping. No drone link because I don't want my 85 million isk gecko getting too far from me lol.

As always, use what you like, it's a game. But in PVE, efficiency matters.

I'm lazy, I set my 'Snake to orbit the gecko and use FoF missiles. The "Snake lands in a mission, I pop uot the drone, start the missiles and watch the damn thing auto clean the entire room lol. All the joys of afk mission running, while not actually afk