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Feature Idea: Replace wormhole polarization popup with timer indicator

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Raphendyr Nardieu
Avanto
Hole Control
#1 - 2015-07-29 14:19:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Raphendyr Nardieu
Hi,

I don't like modal popup windows (dialog that require interaction), so could we get rid of the one that tells you about wormhole polarization timer. For this I do have an replacement idea.

Add character only radial timer indicator around the wormhole symbol. Similar to the one with mobile depot reinforcement timer.

If that is too much (better situational awareness for the enemy). at least it should be changed to non-modal notification like the session change timer.

The indicator would look something like this: http://imgur.com/a/gsbGP

Indicator can be implemented in many ways, but I think you will get the idea from above.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#2 - 2015-07-29 21:53:20 UTC
what about when you've jumped through half a dozen different WH's - half of which you've jumped through both ways, and the other half only one way, all will have different polarisation timers ofc...
wait - just actually double checked the picture - and I like it!

perhaps a green timer for when you can jump 1 way, but not back, and a red timer for when you can't jump at all?

REALLY like this! makes WH's a lot more noob friendly (well, excluding the locals, anyway)

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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#3 - 2015-07-30 01:06:58 UTC
When they implemented the timers for crime watch and for boosters, I never understood why they didn't do it for polarization.

+1

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2015-07-30 03:18:07 UTC
Raphendyr Nardieu wrote:
Hi,

I don't like modal windows, so could we get rid of this one. For this I do have an replacement idea.

Add character only radial timer around the womrhole symbol.

It would look something like this: http://imgur.com/a/gsbGP

Indicator can be implemented in many ways, but I think you will get the idea from here.


Good idea.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-07-30 06:50:35 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
When they implemented the timers for crime watch and for boosters, I never understood why they didn't do it for polarization.

+1

Well, because they are tied to particular hole and character instead of just character.

This suggestion pops up once in a while and I support it.
+1
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-07-30 10:35:43 UTC
It would be easier with timer, sure. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it removes some of the mystery about wormholes. They're supposed to be mysterious and unknowable, but that's just me...
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#7 - 2015-07-30 11:47:39 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
It would be easier with timer, sure. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it removes some of the mystery about wormholes. They're supposed to be mysterious and unknowable, but that's just me...

Unknowable... right up until your ship tells you how long to wait.

It's just a visualisation of data you already have.
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#8 - 2015-07-31 23:34:30 UTC
Rawketsled wrote:
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
It would be easier with timer, sure. But I'd rather not have this implemented as it removes some of the mystery about wormholes. They're supposed to be mysterious and unknowable, but that's just me...

Unknowable... right up until your ship tells you how long to wait.

It's just a visualisation of data you already have.


I'm sure there are people out there with about 10 stopwatches so they can keep track of their polarization.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2015-08-01 00:18:41 UTC
Useful and unobtrusive.

Do it.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#10 - 2015-08-01 02:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: elitatwo
I thought about suggesting this soo many times, so yes please.

Rawketsled, and everyone already knew that you cannot use a gate when you shoot back and we got that nice timer anyway. In the heat of the moment time perception gets hazy fast, so a visual when the time to jump is up can save your boat.

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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#11 - 2015-08-01 06:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: FireFrenzy
I would pay like 3 munnies for this to be a thing...

Maybe even 5 whole munnies....


EDIT: i was thinking and i think that in my last 20 wormhole transmissions i have gotten the "less the one second remaining" message no less then 10 times...
Dreekus
Pls Be Gentle
#12 - 2015-08-10 14:29:49 UTC
Smart way of bypassing problem of "Many polarisation timers" by connecting it to WH grid icon.

+1.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#13 - 2015-08-10 20:06:46 UTC
Raphendyr Nardieu wrote:
Hi,

I don't like modal popup windows (dialog that require interaction), so could we get rid of the one that tells you about wormhole polarization timer. For this I do have an replacement idea.

Add character only radial timer indicator around the wormhole symbol. Similar to the one with mobile depot reinforcement timer.

If that is too much (better situational awareness for the enemy). at least it should be changed to non-modal notification like the session change timer.

The indicator would look something like this: http://imgur.com/a/gsbGP

Indicator can be implemented in many ways, but I think you will get the idea from above.



Useful, reasonable and as has been requested before by many wormholers, an extremly good QOL improvement.
The logic of requiring a stopwatch to be sure is completely alien to the concepts of the eve universe.

Supported.

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2015-08-24 11:24:14 UTC
Great idea! So we did it: https://twitter.com/CCP_FoxFour/status/635770834494337024

The orange circle shows as long as you're on grid, but the raw time left only when you hover over it.

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#15 - 2015-08-24 11:51:12 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Great idea! So we did it: https://twitter.com/CCP_FoxFour/status/635770834494337024

The orange circle shows as long as you're on grid, but the raw time left only when you hover over it.

Sexy.

I love it.
Zappity
Exit-Strategy
Unchained Alliance
#16 - 2015-08-24 12:36:25 UTC
Brilliant. I love it. And I can pretty much guarantee that you'll get some **** of a wormholer complaining that you're dumbing down wormholes and breaking J-space. Which just makes it even better.

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Raphendyr Nardieu
Avanto
Hole Control
#17 - 2015-08-24 13:55:47 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Great idea! So we did it: https://twitter.com/CCP_FoxFour/status/635770834494337024

The orange circle shows as long as you're on grid, but the raw time left only when you hover over it.


Once more, thanks for this. As stated in slack, I will buy at least for you and CCP Merc beers when I see you. Maybe next funfest.
Nou Mene
Krypted Gaming
#18 - 2015-08-24 14:43:37 UTC
in the meantime add timestamp on local... problem solved
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#19 - 2015-08-24 15:07:12 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Great idea! So we did it: https://twitter.com/CCP_FoxFour/status/635770834494337024

The orange circle shows as long as you're on grid, but the raw time left only when you hover over it.


Awesome!

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
Transgress
#20 - 2015-08-24 15:56:21 UTC
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