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Should EVE go Free To Play?

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#61 - 2015-08-22 21:18:01 UTC
Jonas Kanjus wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Here is a question:

What if free accounts could access the test servers only?


That would be a huge PITA every time CCP mirrored TQ to SiSi. They would have to find a way to separate the free accounts from the paid accounts so the free accounts don't get wiped during the mirror. My guess would be a huge no from CCP.

Not too hard really, just a matter of activating all the trial accounts. Of course all those trial accounts would have their SP reset with each TQ mirror Lol
But really, that serves no purpose for Sisi, what it's meant for. It's meant for finding bugs, not catering to 1000's of freeloaders that'll just cause havoc to those actually trying to test. If CCP just feels they need more testers, they can set up incentives that reward over to TQ, something small. Seems it's covered though.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#62 - 2015-08-22 22:42:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
Alright I've changed my mind.

After performing the necessary research, I've come to probably the only educated conclusion in this thread:

Free to Play is ESSENTIAL to ensuring the survival of EvE.

Any who disagrees are obviously only doing so to placate their egos, to bolster their superiority complex where they feel having money to spend on completely unnecessary and ridiculous purchases such as online video game subscriptions makes them better people.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#63 - 2015-08-22 22:52:56 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
No NO NO No no NO NO no NO

Please no

Knowing that Children exist is already bad enough.

We all put something at risk, we all invest something, be it time to aquire PLEX or time to pay for the subs.

Kids are dumb. Remove them all from the game and preferably the internet, maybe life if we can convince enough people to agree.


LOL
Marsha Mallow
#64 - 2015-08-22 23:20:44 UTC
Yes

But not yet

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#65 - 2015-08-23 01:00:00 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
You being one who believes what you want, believe whatever you want.

I'll allow it.

Then I'll believe that you have no idea how to spell “fiction” since this is the most consistent with your previous grandiose instances of thorough ignorance.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#66 - 2015-08-23 01:02:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
You being one who believes what you want, believe whatever you want.

I'll allow it.

Then I'll believe that you have no idea how to spell “fiction” since this is the most consistent with your previous grandiose instances of thorough ignorance.


Whatever makes you happy

Which would probably be EvE going free to play because it's a fact that the game would be at least 10x better than it is now.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#67 - 2015-08-23 01:05:49 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Which would probably be EvE going free to play because it's a fact that the game would be at least 10x better than it is now.

You're just proving my point.

Just because the two words begin with ‘f’ and have a ‘ct’ in them does not mean they mean the same thing.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#68 - 2015-08-23 01:12:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Which would probably be EvE going free to play because it's a fact that the game would be at least 10x better than it is now.

You're just proving my point.

Just because the two words begin with ‘f’ and have a ‘ct’ in them does not mean they mean the same thing.


Which leads me to believe you have been drinking to arrive at this conclusion. No sober person would.

Also because your word "begin" has the word "gin" in it.

Please take your obviously drunken statements to AA.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#69 - 2015-08-23 01:13:58 UTC
Im pretty sure, given how badly CCP manages the whole concept of making money from EVE they are probably reading your post and coming to the conclusion that sounds like a great idea.

But.....

Undercutting EVEs already crappy income flow would kill the already pathetic rate of development EVE suffers from due to poor fiscal management by CCP.

So, no.

-1

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2015-08-23 01:14:07 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

I cant afford to play Free To Play games; they're way too expensive.

I'll just leave this here.

Free to Play
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#71 - 2015-08-23 01:23:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Divine Entervention wrote:
Which leads me to believe you have been drinking to arrive at this conclusion.
No, I just know English. It's not the easiest skill in the world to acquire, I'll grant you that, but the same rule holds true for all languages.

Of course, given your previous displays of hilarious prejudice, I'm guessing that you equate “knowing English” and “being drunk” somehow the same way you believe that “fructose” means the same as “friction”.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#72 - 2015-08-23 01:26:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
Divine Entervention wrote:

Well I think people would buy the game, see that they need to train an account for X amount of days, then just log out until that X passed. Then feeling that they can't perform Y until X arrives, when X gets here they wont be able to do J S because they don't know how to play since they'd been logged out the whole time.

Kind of like how it is now, new players being REQUIRED to play eve offline for at least 6 months until they're finally able to do anything worthwhile.

#fact


That is the players' fault. Not CCP's fault. People so concerned about killboard efficiencies that they have some crazy belief that you need 10m sp for pvp.

Is fairly obvious I am not a dps player in pvp, or even pvp that option. I like the fleet aspect and run support/ewar.

Why do I? Is simple. Less than a week in, I was running support for veteran players. I went through market and saw cool things that I could use to assist somebody in a ship that at the time was huge to me! It is the veteran's fault that we don't stockpile cheap T1 frigs with sensor dampeners and such. It is players fault that a veteran doesn't take a rookie under his wing to give remote sebu and tracking link. It is all player fault they care that having 50 dead rookies losing 30m isk worth of ships on a kb is the end of the world.

**** on DPS, get rookies to work with you. Stick em in support, stick em in tackle. In a fight, let em run wild and cause disruption giving the veterans in their fleet an edge. The isk in this game is insane. A bil isk would by ships for a hundred rookies. And you cannot tell me that having a hundred extra scrams, or ecm or whatever wouldn't give an edge. This becomes common, you know what, that squad of rookies has balls. Give em fast ships to take out the other support rookies. And your killboard efficiencies? Stick em up your asterix.

We should make eve free. Then all the past month of updates will be a years updates because will have a dev team equal to most FTP games... until they get several million people so that earning potential is what it is now.

10 dollars for a million sp. Buy 10 mil for 90.

Edit to add to above:

If you see my kb, there is one spot where I have multiple destructions of corpie shuttles. That was podsave training. I was in a tackle ship. They were to orbit me. I would lockdown ship, count to five then pop the shuttle and then try to scramble to pod. It was training for avoidance of a pod scramble to protect pod. They were guys who played as miners. I repeatedly used the above tactics in training and working with industry corps. The purpose was to level the playing field vs the hunter war decs where a small corp decs the large one. As result, twenty ships with ewar and stuff made it a tough time for guys declaring war. They gave a good fight, had a good time on both parties. War dec canceled and were on their way. The miners didn't get kills, but they held their own. It completely changed their outlook on eve and pvp within it.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#73 - 2015-08-23 01:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Which leads me to believe you have been drinking to arrive at this conclusion.
No, I just know English. It's not the easiest skill in the world to acquire, I'll grant you that, but the same rule holds true for all languages.

Of course, given your previous displays of hilarious prejudice, I'm guessing that you equate “knowing English” and “being drunk” somehow the same way you believe that “fructose” means the same as “friction”.



English? Yea I know that one, chap. Nice one.

We still get to speak English thanks to the USA defeating Germany back in the great war.

Back to Back world war champs.

But whatever, I'll not give you a bollocking for your dodgy assumptions due to my knowing you're trying to talk to me while you're pissed.

Cheers
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#74 - 2015-08-23 01:58:05 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
We still get to speak English thanks to the USA defeating Germany back in the great war.
So you're as ignorant of history as you are of English, then.

Quote:
But whatever, I'll not give you a bollocking for your dodgy assumptions due to my knowing you're trying to talk to me while you're pissed.
It's not particularly dodgy, or even much in the way of assumption, when you provide such ample evidence of it all being true…
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#75 - 2015-08-23 02:06:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
We still get to speak English thanks to the USA defeating Germany back in the great war.
So you're as ignorant of history as you are of English, then.

Quote:
But whatever, I'll not give you a bollocking for your dodgy assumptions due to my knowing you're trying to talk to me while you're pissed.
It's not particularly dodgy, or even much in the way of assumption, when you provide such ample evidence of it all being true…


That's the great thing about the Land of the Free.

Our predecessors fought and died for your right to believe whatever you want.

Even when you're 100% wrong.

December 7th, 1941. Never forget.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#76 - 2015-08-23 02:10:31 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
That's the great thing about the Land of the Free.

Our predecessors fought and died for your right to believe whatever you want.

Even when you're 100% wrong.

You would certainly have been carted off and recycled for more useful purposes if that weren't the case…
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#77 - 2015-08-23 02:11:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
That's the great thing about the Land of the Free.

Our predecessors fought and died for your right to believe whatever you want.

Even when you're 100% wrong.

You would certainly have been carted off and recycled for more useful purposes if that weren't the case…


You really shouldn't try to argue while pissed. Only makes you look like those first few letters of that word "assumption" we're tossing about.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2015-08-23 02:15:25 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
You really shouldn't try to argue while pissed. Only makes you look like those first few letters of that word "assumption" we're tossing about.

So why do you keep doing so?
Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2015-08-23 02:16:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonas Kanjus
Divine Entervention wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
We still get to speak English thanks to the USA defeating Germany back in the great war.
So you're as ignorant of history as you are of English, then.

Quote:
But whatever, I'll not give you a bollocking for your dodgy assumptions due to my knowing you're trying to talk to me while you're pissed.
It's not particularly dodgy, or even much in the way of assumption, when you provide such ample evidence of it all being true…


That's the great thing about the Land of the Free.

Our predecessors fought and died for your right to believe whatever you want.

Even when you're 100% wrong.

December 7th, 1941. Never forget.


One word, Sabaton. Coat of Arms and Uprising are two of my favorite songs from that group.

My start date to EVE Online: 6/25/2005 8:24:57 AM UTC
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#80 - 2015-08-23 02:19:54 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
You really shouldn't try to argue while pissed. Only makes you look like those first few letters of that word "assumption" we're tossing about.

So why do you keep doing so?


I know you are but what am I?