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Empress Jamyl Sarum I assassinated / Succession Trials announced

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-08-22 09:16:57 UTC
I have to say this surprised me to say the least...however I can't help but think this was very personal between the Drifters and the Empress herself. They targeted no-one else and literally executed her with no other engagement at all with the Imperial Navy. They surely cannot be so naive to think that killing the Empress would somehow handicap the Amarr?

I would ask the Imperial governing bodies once again to release any information at all that they have regarding any possible reasons for this attack. I would also implore the Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Empires to show restraint at this time. If this *was* something personal between the Drifters and Empress Jamyl I it would be dangerous in the extreme to risk dragging the whole of New Eden into a war with the Drifters without understanding why.
Suzuha Yamada
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#22 - 2015-08-23 02:23:23 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:


It appeared that a neutral pilot may have acquired the corpse. The Drifter forces were well out of range for (normal) cargo acquisition capabilities so it would be safe to assume they were not capable of capturing it for themselves.



Edited to remove reference to a "Gila". My video files of the incident do not provide sufficient evidence concerning the pilot or specific type of vessel in proximity to the remains. All that was clear was that there were at least 3 vessels that could have obtained them.


Mr. Khanid,

My office has been working on discovering who obtained the corpse, we have reason to believe it was a frigate-class vessel based on watching hours worth of neocom recordings published on galnet. Further work is underway, but more brains and eyes on neocom footage from the incident will be helpful.

If you wish to send me a mail I can happily share what information my team currently has.
Markus Error
Manfios
#23 - 2015-08-23 02:51:48 UTC
And agin the Drifters target the Empire.

Not sure about the rest of you, but I'm puzzled. I figured they'd be spreading the love... though, I suppose that could still be forthcoming.

I'd offer condolences to the I perials among u, but.. well.

She was - technically - an enemy of my people. Sorry.

"If it cannot be shot the #### down, it can always be blown the #### up."

-Unknown

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#24 - 2015-08-23 07:15:00 UTC
Updated the Opening Post to reflect the latest news regarding the death of the Empress

Reaction of Concord & the major powers: Concord & New Eden Major power's reaction to the death of the Empress

Updated my article 'Empress Jamyl Sarum I assassinated by Drifter taskforce!' to include this response.

Announcement by the Court Chamberlain regarding the succession trials: Court Chamberlain confirms Succession Trials to be held

I published a separate article regarding this, to collect the information i found regarding this announcement & what is currently known about it: 'Succession trials confirmed next year to select the new Emperor/Empress'

An additional note, since last week, the Drifters have been acting up beyond Empire space. This expanded aggression has been observed majorly in the Federation for reasons unknown. The Drifters would trade shots with gate patrols (Navy, Police or Concord) then withdraw. These are minor skirmishes, small in scale & short in time, but they are worrying nonetheless. So far this behaviour is only reported in the Federation, save for one unconfirmed report in the State. I reported on this odd actions last week in 'Amarr Navy repels third Drifter assault'
Hopefully the Drifter aggression will not escalate further, considering their technological & logistic advantage they enjoy....

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-08-23 09:15:13 UTC
There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?

It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#26 - 2015-08-23 09:40:24 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?

It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness.



I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.

As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling.
Kairelle
Raven.Syndicate
#27 - 2015-08-23 09:51:36 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?

It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness.



I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.

As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling.


Well if they wanted to inspire fear they failed.
They inspired serious thought about just how much of a threat they pose to all the empires, and with the exception of some short sighted Matari everyone seems to agree on that one. They also seem to have really pissed off a majority of the Amarr capsuleers.
They haven't inspired fear...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.

Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.

Arrendis
TK Corp
#28 - 2015-08-23 09:54:10 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.


Alternately, they wanted to kill her, and didn't give a crap about shooting a bunch of people they didn't particularly care about.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-08-23 10:15:05 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?

It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness.



I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.

As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling.

Great idea, by the way!
We should kill Roden.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#30 - 2015-08-23 12:21:58 UTC
Kairelle wrote:
...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.



I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#31 - 2015-08-23 13:13:48 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
Kairelle wrote:
...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.



I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei.


Well, if they're less of a unifying influence than that (which is what 'the greatest since' means), then they're not much of a unifying power at all. After all, most of us tend to ignore the Nation's incursions when they don't directly inconvenience us.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2015-08-23 14:47:57 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
Kairelle wrote:
...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.



I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei.



And I was there, five years ago when Kuvakei started abducting millions of people from worlds all across the cluster. As a people we cried out for help. As a people, we turned to CONCORD to band us together to face this threat to humanity and our way of life. And as a people, CONCORD sold us out for their own self-interests. When we called out for peace, CONCORD gave us an endless border war and to this day, reap the profits of the blood of our people.

The Drifters are indeed a greater threat than the Sansha.

But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Arrendis
TK Corp
#33 - 2015-08-23 15:39:32 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.


Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers...

Wherever could such a thing be found....
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2015-08-23 16:03:38 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.


Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers...

Wherever could such a thing be found....



Just...don't....

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Arrendis
TK Corp
#35 - 2015-08-23 16:09:51 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Just...don't....


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Stig Elendil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-08-24 15:35:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Stig Elendil
Not that i am not stunned by the fact that an entity was able to kill a state leader but i find the term "assassinated" biased, or incorrect.

If you simply look at the facts, a military action was made by the Drifters. That operation resulted in the Empress being killed in action while piloting her combat Titan (unless it was just a traveling one). This has been possible because the Empire simply underestimated the potential threat of the Drifters. Don't forget that the Empress herself told us that this was "under control". It appears clearly to me that in fact it was absolutely not under control. Not that the scientific community didn't warned us all.

According to this i would rather say that a superior officer has been killed in action (after all she was the leader of her armies) and eliminating officers is often happening in wars. It would be eventualy an homicide and could be eventualy a war crime (considering it if she was unarmed and couldn't ripost).

I would have also interrogations concerning the capacity of reaction of her escort. Safizon had been already visited by massive Drifters fleets. Did they take all the security precautions needed ? Apparently not.

I'm afraid this could also happen to another state leader if they don't take this more seriously. As a Gallente, seeing a meeting of officials in Algogille give me concerns about the possibility that Drifters activities has raised in Gallente space and that same events could happen there, and that my country could be the next Drifters target. I hope this will not happen but i feel deeply sad about all those events.

Beside the disagreement on terms used there, i wish to give Amarr People my sincere condolences for the loss of their Empress and all the crew members that died in the Seraph destruction.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2015-08-24 19:10:28 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.


Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers...

Wherever could such a thing be found....


In Yulai ?
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