EVE General Discussion

I wish to avoid creating bias peraonally so have not read any replies. Following is own opinion directly responded to OP.

Reset? No.

From a player view. I do not have an ALT team. I am betting many players dont. Most MMO, nobody is interested in multibox. As such, I have seven unbroken years of skill training. Think I have any intention of starting back over? I can have fun in most everything from T1 to supers if I chose. Why would I want to play if I am back to not being able to do my high end of PVP?

The tools and game design is very open for new players and veterans to interact and work together in an enjoyqble manner. Problem is, the ideal role for new players is not of any use. Ewar, tackle remote boosts? Low sp to train means perfect for newbs to do something with great effect. These utilities can use extremely cost effective ships making for easy supply by veterans.

We do not need or want server reset. What we need is mechanics that make non blob combat (promote independent squads in fleet fights) to have room and benefit to ewar and non logistics support. Complexity will help offset inflation and improve player retention. At same time, will move more towards the cruisers being bread and butter in fleets with capitals being strategic resources. Done right, it will not eliminate current gameplay options.

Reset and one year from now will just be exactly where we are now, just with far fewer independent and small corp players. Sure, not cap fleets, but a few guys will easily out pace majority and chery pick it all.

The isk factor. That is the key point. Bounties and reward ate the only way isk enters. Rich from market and materials only are so because some point, somebody is getting isk without investment. That is simply due to rates of cetain incomes being too high. If income rates were slower, main markets would be low value and low margin items. To balance eve but still offer progression, eve mechanics led themselve on lower end of endame isk income to being about 20-100+ MIL per hour of gameplay per toon. As such, late game players need to be losing that or similar minus 10-20% to still feel progression and get shinies.

However, pvp lends itself to battle avoidance with losses rare. On high end of earnings, players with multiple toons paying onto one means just impossible to control isk levels. Hoarding is a form of isk sink though at least. But this high level does remove competiton and therefore, challenge.

End result is on the isk generation side, isk=/=risk. Scripted nature and predictability eliminates most chance of loss. So isk equals more isk. In old incursion debate, they are so scripted that it is expected to fly expensive to maximize earning rates. Risk so low for most that potential loss is not a factor in your earnings. We just generate way too much isk. Net generation rate slower would make player skill more relevant as it would reduce minimum SP requirements for an effective fleet. Lower cost ships more common.

Ah, so you can't actually point to any flaw in my post , or my thinking in general, just thought you'd take the time out of your obviously busy and fulfilling life to troll on a space game forum for no good reason. Got it.

If any of you others wonder why I sometimes take issue with the above poster, there it is for you. I mean, I must be the problem here right?

You keep it, it adds to the irony that occurs when you snarkily post about how horrible a place General Discussion is while conveniently forgetting that you are a General Discussion poster...

Honestly, if you reset Eve, I would not be surprised if we were to end up at exactly the same point we are at today in a couple of years, provided there are enough people left afterwards, of course.

Wouldn't even be hard, more like completely impossible. Players would rage CCP is just trying to milk money for PLEX and AUR. Big alliances would reform in minutes and just become mega powerful while everyone less organized would be vaporized. And anyway, if things changed that much so quickly as you suggest would be the only way, it likely would be awful, as other games have done historically and closed down.

Posts. Plural.
That is the problem. Repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again.
"You are all illogical and see the world the wrong way."

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You can stop broadcasting it now.

... or you can try putting on a different record and having an original thought this year instead of repeating the same one from years gone by.

I'd be curious to see how many people still asked, can I have your stuff when everyone threatened to quit because they look all our stuff.

Jenn is my favorite poster...