Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Plex is one of eve's carrots.

Its the game that lets you make in game money to pay for the monthly fee. To many this is appealing. Can't take that away really.
Plus it can cover other things like char transfers and stuff.


New player leaving because of ganks is going to leave regardless. They are looking for another type of game. Which is cool...we all got our tastes.


Thing is with tastes as some point its in the player to find what works for them vice change a game around to meet it. A game dev can never make 100% of the people happy and should not be bending over backwards to keep them.

The wisest summation I have heard about game players, mmo players especially, I heard from someone goes like this.


If you gave an mmo player a real life gold brick, you'd get quite a few complaining its too big and heavy and request to have it cut down in smaller sizes or ask for something else equal in value.


Don't like the plex aspect...a player can just pretend its not there. I do. I only deal with plex because of my Japanese IP and CCP forcing me because of that to see nexus (crappy account management system for japan they used when they entered the Japanese MMO market) if I use management features on the website.

So I ETC to plex to get game time. Besides that...any game stuff is done just for the sake of game play really. Just bought a kronos. Yet to run it, hoping time comes up soon as it should. Am I banking on it making plex isk easily? Hell no, my time is limited. I just got it to get away from missile chucking in pve...have done that for too many years and eve was getting stale.

As proven by experiments with DDO, WOW, Everquest2 and SWG not to mention ESO and WAR, dumbing down a game just makes everyone leave. If anything EVE should become harder to really encourage commitment and reward smart players.

Your statement is true if there exists a group of players who have, 1.purchased Plex and; 2.bought freighter(s) and; 3.been ganked in high sec and; 4.quit after being ganked. These 4 events are independent to each other. To me the probability of outcome seems small. However, only CCP knows the figures of each events and the overall impact to the game.

OP got it all wrong...


Those krabs are basically my personal minnies working for pennies on the hour doing menial work so I can pew.

The stupidest point is that those people 'don't pay with money'. PLEX are friggin bought with RL cash. If anything plexed accounts make more money for them because its more expensive per month.

Can you explain what this ton of damage actually was, for those of us not in the know?

Ahahahaha

To broad of a generalization, players leaving because of ganks is a very real thing and flatly stating that all of them would have left the game anyway is wrong, you have no idea what any one player may or may not have done.

I do not think you understand how PLEX actually works.

PLEX only transfers liquid ISK from one player to another (in exchange for 30 days of pre-paid game time).

It does not add any ISK to the economy (in fact, it removes some ISK through taxes and fees).

No, the bigges culprit for ISK deflation comes from NPC bounties (which comes from missions, 'roid belts, and anomalies).

But even this is not the only reason for the rise of PLEX prices.
The grand majority of PLEX is being horded (for what reason, no one is quite sure) and it is easier than ever to earn some kind of income (Faction Warfare, SOV changes, and the increased safety of high-sec (which does increase income because you are looking over your shoulder less and can thus devote more time and energy into raking in as much ISK as possible)).
Meanwhile demand has remained largely the same.

You are incorrect in this. For many it is the timing of that first gank and how it leaves then ISK wise that is the major factor. If they are ganked in the ONLY ship they have that is not the worthless rookie ships and that ship cost them ALL of the ISK they have they are far more likely to quit.
On the other hand if they already have several ships, or a decent ISK balance so they can replace that lost ship then they are far more likely to brush it off and stay in the game.

You are correct ganks are a part of the game and they will happen to players both new and old, when they happen some will stay in the game and others will not. However to state that all players that leave because of a gank would have left at some point in the future is a bold faced lie, you have no idea what they may or may not have done tomorrow, or a week from now or a year from now.