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Is Hauling Fun?

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#21 - 2015-08-11 14:23:58 UTC
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Is Hauling Fun?
It must be fun for some people, because my courier contracts always get scooped up real quick.

Mr Epeen Cool
Urziel99
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#22 - 2015-08-11 14:33:19 UTC
If the price is right and the route is quiet it can be a break from routine. If not, then grab some friends or pay someone else.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#23 - 2015-08-11 16:15:49 UTC
I imagine it's fun if done ethically.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#24 - 2015-08-11 20:25:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Never haul for someone else, ISK per hour is trash.

Play market and make your ISK that way but be warned that if an opportunity looks too juicy it is for a reason, learn what not to do in a freighter, like take enough value of goods that you are a good financial gank.

Assume gankers have put an implant into youre RL brain and whatever you do, they know so plan accordingly.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#25 - 2015-08-11 21:40:07 UTC
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
Serious question here. I do all my own hauling and it is a pain every time. Thankfully I rarely need to haul so it doesn't happen very often.

For those that actually make their living in this game hauling, do you enjoy it?
For those also haul their own stuff, do you like moving your own goods?

Basically ITT just talk about the fun/h you get while space trucking.



Are you having existential moments there, Siggy?


Also, it's just a game. Haulers need to separate out how they feel when hauling away from RL. If hauling is such a drag for you, maybe Eve Online is not the game you should be playing.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2015-08-11 21:41:03 UTC
Globby wrote:
I haul 20-30 billion in my freighter each time because I'm not afraid of ganks because I totally understand the mechanics and I fly with an alt on standby. I make 5 billion a day through basic arbitrage.



And you are on their blue list.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Commander Sexy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-08-11 23:28:15 UTC
Thanks to you Mr. Cohenberg sir, my hauling alt adventures are 100% more fun these days. Still only 100% of a very small amount of fun.



Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2015-08-12 00:17:09 UTC
Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
#29 - 2015-08-17 15:54:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Azov Rassau
Believe it or not, there are people who do hauling for fun. An example.

That is what makes this game so special: there's an amazing variety of things you can do. While there's a big battle somewhere in the ominous vastness of Nullsec, there's also a guy piloting his Charon in Highsec, listening to his favorite music during a 32 jump route and enjoying the beautiful scenery while also feeling the stress as he approaches Uedama. Although not on the same level, it's actually quite similar to the stress felt by real sailors as they enter the pirate-infested waters across the Gulf of Aden. Watch this movie to see what it's like.

Very often, people who haul for fun are the ones who haul like a boss: with a webbing friend/alt, scouting and reinforced bulkheads.

As any legendary freighter bumper will tell you, (I salute you Taishan Mandragoran, Krissada, D35) it's impossible to get the initial bump on a freighter who properly uses the webbing technique. (well unless the freighter decloaks right on top of your Machariel). After jumping to a system, a properly webbed freighter warps away so quickly that the ship actually moves sideways at the beginning of the warp. At that precious moment, as your warp drive starts, it's fun to stare at the bumper and say Good Bye!! Big smile

AFK Haulers? No, they're not having fun. They're not even playing the game. How can you have fun when you're not actively engaging with the game? I'm not even sure why they bother logging in. They actually deserve getting ganked, especially the full-time AFKers. Blink

Even hauling becomes fun when you stay at keyboard and play the game.

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

Anti-Ganking Fun: www.gankerjamming.com

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2015-08-17 16:13:19 UTC
I recall a certain grey scale had a vision of freighter convoys in nullsec, so I suppose so!

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Salvos Rhoska
#31 - 2015-08-17 16:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Hauling is more fun, related to the value of your cargo.

I used to haul my own shinies, but then realised Frog industries do it better, at no risk, and very affordably.
Im nonetheless skilling an alt for BR, but I still swear by RF freight, and they aint never let me down.

They remain remarkably anonymous, and I have no idea of their profits and organisational structure, but I do know they do their job extremely well. I take their services for granted, will continue to use them, providing them content and isk, and wish them all the best cos goddam they are nailing their angle right to the wall with impeccable results.

Keep on rollin', you glorious muthertruckers!

TOOT TOOT!

PS: Am nonetheless always keeping an eye out for other upcoming hauling enterpreneurs.
If you will cover my value reasonably, and charge less for the haul, we can do perpetual weekly business.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#32 - 2015-08-17 17:11:29 UTC
I haul stuff when I need to. I have 2 freighter capable pilots, 1 bowhead + orca, 3 blockade runner/DST,

usually requires a few seconds of attention every jump and is pretty afkable after that. most of the time is just sat in warp.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Jax Moon
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#33 - 2015-08-20 04:30:48 UTC
Hauling is NOT fun, you will be harassed by CCP, CODE and Globby, they will all destroy you and laugh in your face, you will never have a chance to move your stuff anywhre.

CCP offers no way for you to protect yourself, while moving though highsec, you're as good as dead as soon as you undock. CCP doesn't care if people cheat or scam you, while CCP themselves SUPPORT people that kill freighter pilots...

you'd be better off joining the people that KILL haulers, because you'd at least be on the side that 's making isk!

Oh, and did I tell you that CCP actually supports these people that try to kill you... it seems that your rage for having lost everyhting you've worked for just makes them happy!

the Hauling killers have 100% of the vantage points and you have ZERO...you will die. it's just a matter of time.

WATCH IT FAIR PLAY DOES NOT Exist for haulers, CCP goes out of their way to make sure the bad guys have the upper hand!

Fly safe in your shuttle!

Yang Aurilen
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#34 - 2015-08-20 05:02:35 UTC
Jax Moon wrote:
Hauling is NOT fun, you will be harassed by CCP, CODE and Globby, they will all destroy you and laugh in your face, you will never have a chance to move your stuff anywhre.

CCP offers no way for you to protect yourself, while moving though highsec, you're as good as dead as soon as you undock. CCP doesn't care if people cheat or scam you, while CCP themselves SUPPORT people that kill freighter pilots...

you'd be better off joining the people that KILL haulers, because you'd at least be on the side that 's making isk!

Oh, and did I tell you that CCP actually supports these people that try to kill you... it seems that your rage for having lost everyhting you've worked for just makes them happy!

the Hauling killers have 100% of the vantage points and you have ZERO...you will die. it's just a matter of time.

WATCH IT FAIR PLAY DOES NOT Exist for haulers, CCP goes out of their way to make sure the bad guys have the upper hand!

Fly safe in your shuttle!


TL;DR version:

Guize guize guize I didn't GIT GUD Shocked

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Ima GoodGirl
Aria Shi's Wasted ISK
#35 - 2015-08-20 05:38:59 UTC
Jax Moon wrote:
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Fly safe in your shuttle!

That's some bad advice right there. Shuttles aren't safe.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#36 - 2015-08-20 06:16:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Jax Moon wrote:
Oh, and did I tell you that CCP actually supports these people that try to kill you... it seems that your rage for having lost everyhting you've worked for just makes them happy!

What? CCP has actually designed the game so that players actually try to blow each other's ships up? I can't believe CCP provides mechanisms and incentives to blow up other player's ships in this spaceship PvP game!

They beat you in a PvP contest and afterwards you raged about the loss of your space pixels like a toddler having their favourite toy taken away. Don't you see how that could make someone happy? Everyone likes to win.

But to answer the topic of this thread, it seems that you might find hauling fun, but you certainly don't find losing fun. In that case, you should play a non-PvP game where there are no consequences if the predators catch you. Maybe Euro Truck Simulator 2 is more up your alley?
Paranoid Loyd
#37 - 2015-08-20 07:09:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Those are some glorious tears Jax. Your rant thread was pretty good as well, too bad it got locked so quick. It takes you 5 months to grind out 5 bil? If it takes you that long to make 5 bil and then you think it's a good idea to put all of your eggs in not only an unprotected basket but a basket you purposely made even flimsier by adding cargo expanders, this really isnt the game for you. It's one big contest, every move you make has potential consequences. You made a series of poor choices and paid a large price for it. Learn from it and move on or run a way in defeat.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
The Initiative.
#38 - 2015-08-20 07:24:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiandoshia
It's pretty boring but it is something to do. I wouldn't do it for just any person putting up a public contract though, they usually pay **** all.

Successful, large scale hauling and logistics can get pretty expensive too, if you want to stay safe while doing it.

-E- Oh and what Jax says is largely true. It's why doing it successfully is actually quite a lot of effort and might cost a bit to get off the ground but yeah, don't spend 57459357 trillion on freighters, implants and alts before you have any idea what you are doing.
Suneai
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
Holy Arumbian Empire
#39 - 2015-08-20 07:55:04 UTC
Hauling can be great fun when you're doing it in the right circumstances, it's quite dull if you do it with an alt in an NPC corp because there's very little risk so it's a simple back and forth trip in a slow boat... do a bit of hauling on your main character with a mixture of war-decs from 'merc' groups that often live around the trade hubs and things can get a lot more fun and exciting.

I quite enjoy picking up a stockpile of goods from a hub an transporting it to our base within a low-sec cluster, it has the thrill of constantly looking out for possible threats to keep things fun. Hauling through a chain of wormholes is another fun activity as you can rarely tell who is lurking in wait for a score.
Every now and then I'll give the job to more dedicated hauling groups like Black Frog if I'm shifting stuff that isn't for my own personal use, but most of the time I like spending some time travelling between 30-40 jumps for a change of pace.
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#40 - 2015-08-20 19:35:33 UTC
No

But it has to be done sometimes. Lol
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