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Solo ship for Angel Escalations in Nullsec?
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I BuildStuffs
Dark Energy LLC
#1 - 2015-08-17 20:34:11 UTC
Sup guys o/

So nullsec is fairly new to me after returning to Eve from a long break. I've been running angel anoms recently and now I'm looking to switch it up to escalations or scannable DED sites.

I did a 6/10 and 7/10 with a gila and it was pretty fun :D

What's the minimum ship I would need to do an 8/10 or 10/10 solo in angel space? Seems like when i do a search all the results are outdated.

I'm not necessarily looking to do the sites blitz style but under an hour would be nice :D

I can fly an ishtar but haven't used it yet (I've just been using a domi in the angel anoms).

In a few days i can start training T3's (closest to Tengu and Proteus)

I can use missiles or hybrids.

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it o7
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#2 - 2015-08-18 04:44:45 UTC
I BuildStuffs wrote:
Sup guys o/

So nullsec is fairly new to me after returning to Eve from a long break. I've been running angel anoms recently and now I'm looking to switch it up to escalations or scannable DED sites.

I did a 6/10 and 7/10 with a gila and it was pretty fun :D

What's the minimum ship I would need to do an 8/10 or 10/10 solo in angel space? Seems like when i do a search all the results are outdated.

I'm not necessarily looking to do the sites blitz style but under an hour would be nice :D

I can fly an ishtar but haven't used it yet (I've just been using a domi in the angel anoms).

In a few days i can start training T3's (closest to Tengu and Proteus)

I can use missiles or hybrids.

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it o7

you answered your own queston.

Fit like this guy.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-08-18 06:56:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
I BuildStuffs wrote:
Sup guys o/

So nullsec is fairly new to me after returning to Eve from a long break. I've been running angel anoms recently and now I'm looking to switch it up to escalations or scannable DED sites.

I did a 6/10 and 7/10 with a gila and it was pretty fun :D

What's the minimum ship I would need to do an 8/10 or 10/10 solo in angel space? Seems like when i do a search all the results are outdated.

I'm not necessarily looking to do the sites blitz style but under an hour would be nice :D

I can fly an ishtar but haven't used it yet (I've just been using a domi in the angel anoms).

In a few days i can start training T3's (closest to Tengu and Proteus)

I can use missiles or hybrids.

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it o7


I have done 10/10 several times in Machariel. I explained how to run it in the post below. In the last room of 10/10 angel plex you will get hit by a very big weapon and the damage is between 3000-15000 with 75% resistances. It can one shot a Tengu. So in my opinion t3 aren't an option for 10/10

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5969011#post5969011

I tried to do anomalies in Proteus and it is useless because of low Dps (rats have goot thermal resistance), low explosive resistance. Hams Tengu could be possible, but not for 10/10 .
Jommis
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2015-08-19 13:37:28 UTC
Tengu works fine. Just have to start movind right away as you land. If not you will find yourself in a pod after 1 volley ^^
alpha36
Northern Freight Unlimited
Young Miners Christian Association
#5 - 2015-08-19 15:08:53 UTC
Mach, Angel 10/10

7x 800m cannon thingies
Empty highslot

1x Pith X-Type explosive hardner
1x Pith b-type adapt field
1x Gist X-type extra large shield booster
1x gist (anything type) 100m afterburner
1x Deadspace shield booster

3x gyrostabs
2x tracking things
0-1x capacitor flux coil
1x damage control unit

2x capacitor control circut
1x large anti em rig

Crystal set (medium/high)

This is what i use to run angel 10/10 deds, you have to pulse the shield booster due to cap and the AB helps u get across the 80km rooms quicker and mitigate damage if u have to. Use heavy explosive drones (i use federation issue for more tank) and dont launch them till all frigs/destroyers are dead or they will get rekt
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#6 - 2015-08-19 15:20:03 UTC
I do 10/10s with a Machariel and a Tengu, but that's Mach luxury, the Tengu can do it solo. No the antimatter channeler is not a problem, and no you don't even have to move much in the last room (expect in my case to get in range).

The tengu is at 1st cloaky/nullified fit and scouts for my mach. In the escalation system I refit the tengu to this:

[Tengu, 10ten]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor

Scourge Fury Light Missile x6000
Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x6000
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x6000

A +3 cap implant makes it cap stable. The shiled extender is of course an odd choice on an active tanked ship, but you end up with more than 90k EHP because of it, tanks 1100 angel dps (i did splurge on a partial mid grade crystal set, everything but the omega, without crystals it still tanks 900+ angel DPS)

I've done the Angel 10/10 solo with that Tengu, it wasn't quick but it was super safe and easy. The mach is just there now to make things got way faster.
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-08-19 22:11:19 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I do 10/10s with a Machariel and a Tengu, but that's Mach luxury, the Tengu can do it solo. No the antimatter channeler is not a problem, and no you don't even have to move much in the last room (expect in my case to get in range).

The tengu is at 1st cloaky/nullified fit and scouts for my mach. In the escalation system I refit the tengu to this:

[Tengu, 10ten]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor

Scourge Fury Light Missile x6000
Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x6000
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x6000

A +3 cap implant makes it cap stable. The shiled extender is of course an odd choice on an active tanked ship, but you end up with more than 90k EHP because of it, tanks 1100 angel dps (i did splurge on a partial mid grade crystal set, everything but the omega, without crystals it still tanks 900+ angel DPS)

I've done the Angel 10/10 solo with that Tengu, it wasn't quick but it was super safe and easy. The mach is just there now to make things got way faster.




How do you cope with antimater guy in last room in a Tengu ?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#8 - 2015-08-20 02:01:37 UTC
Warp in, kill web tower that I can reach, kill anti matter channeler, bookmark his wreck, warp out.
I BuildStuffs
Dark Energy LLC
#9 - 2015-08-20 14:59:18 UTC
Awesome. ty u guys so much!

It'll be about a month until i'll be done training the tengu :( But I have patience I can wait.


much appreciated,

o7
I BuildStuffs
Dark Energy LLC
#10 - 2015-08-20 15:03:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I BuildStuffs wrote:
Sup guys o/

So nullsec is fairly new to me after returning to Eve from a long break. I've been running angel anoms recently and now I'm looking to switch it up to escalations or scannable DED sites.

I did a 6/10 and 7/10 with a gila and it was pretty fun :D

What's the minimum ship I would need to do an 8/10 or 10/10 solo in angel space? Seems like when i do a search all the results are outdated.

I'm not necessarily looking to do the sites blitz style but under an hour would be nice :D

I can fly an ishtar but haven't used it yet (I've just been using a domi in the angel anoms).

In a few days i can start training T3's (closest to Tengu and Proteus)

I can use missiles or hybrids.

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it o7

you answered your own queston.

Fit like this guy.



That's actually the fit i used for the 6/10 & 7/10... can it really do a 10/10? Would it take hours and hours to do?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#11 - 2015-08-20 16:42:47 UTC
I BuildStuffs wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I BuildStuffs wrote:
Sup guys o/

So nullsec is fairly new to me after returning to Eve from a long break. I've been running angel anoms recently and now I'm looking to switch it up to escalations or scannable DED sites.

I did a 6/10 and 7/10 with a gila and it was pretty fun :D

What's the minimum ship I would need to do an 8/10 or 10/10 solo in angel space? Seems like when i do a search all the results are outdated.

I'm not necessarily looking to do the sites blitz style but under an hour would be nice :D

I can fly an ishtar but haven't used it yet (I've just been using a domi in the angel anoms).

In a few days i can start training T3's (closest to Tengu and Proteus)

I can use missiles or hybrids.

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it o7

you answered your own queston.

Fit like this guy.



That's actually the fit i used for the 6/10 & 7/10... can it really do a 10/10? Would it take hours and hours to do?


Not at all. in each room except the last of the angel 10/10, you would go in full tank (laying down your mobil depot) and killing every stasis tower, webbing frig and anything that can target paint, then refit to full damage and kill the battleships and any structure you need to kill (the structure in the 3rd room drops loot, it's called "Docked and Loaded Mammoth").

It won't be super quick, but it won't be 'hours' either. There is a limit to how fast you can do a top end site with 1 ship anyways, 8/10s and up were built with multiple players in mind. This is why i dual box a Mach and Tengu, the faster I complete the plex the less time someone has to try to hunt me down.
I BuildStuffs
Dark Energy LLC
#12 - 2015-08-20 17:44:27 UTC
Great!

Thx jenn I'll give it a go with the gila and see what happens :)
DB Jones
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#13 - 2015-08-21 09:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: DB Jones
You can do the escalations in an Ishtar. Not sure about the DED 10/10s and such though.

Ishtar :

highs:
Drone Link Aug II
Mids:
100mn AB - I use a Shadow Serpentis one.
LSE II
Explo hardener - I went for Deadspace but it isn't at all necesary.
LSE II

lows:
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Flux Coil II
Power Diagnostics System II - this can be changed to something else if you chose. I just took it because my cap/shield skills werent amazing - I dont have Shield management V, for instance. Note that it is necesary if you go for tech 2 100 AB :)

Berserker IIs
5x Warrior II's.

I did the fleet staging point in this without trouble. On stage 3 you just need to orbit outside the web range (50km) and kill the neut towers whenever they spawn. Reset drone aggro whenever the station spawns things so that the drones do not automatically go back to hitting the station. Neut towers should be killed as fast as possible as this will kill your tank (speed and hardener)
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#14 - 2015-08-21 19:13:08 UTC
DB Jones wrote:
You can do the escalations in an Ishtar. Not sure about the DED 10/10s and such though.

Ishtar :

highs:
Drone Link Aug II
Mids:
100mn AB - I use a Shadow Serpentis one.
LSE II
Explo hardener - I went for Deadspace but it isn't at all necesary.
LSE II

lows:
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Flux Coil II
Power Diagnostics System II - this can be changed to something else if you chose. I just took it because my cap/shield skills werent amazing - I dont have Shield management V, for instance. Note that it is necesary if you go for tech 2 100 AB :)

Berserker IIs
5x Warrior II's.

I did the fleet staging point in this without trouble. On stage 3 you just need to orbit outside the web range (50km) and kill the neut towers whenever they spawn. Reset drone aggro whenever the station spawns things so that the drones do not automatically go back to hitting the station. Neut towers should be killed as fast as possible as this will kill your tank (speed and hardener)


Friend of mine got his Ishtar killed (one shot from Antimatter ship) in the last room of 10/10.