EVE General Discussion

If he wasn't before, he is now.

Yep, I totally agree with you. Eve is a great game, but the majority of the people that play this game is............

If you're going out of Hi-Sec to make isk, your best bet is to use a platinum insured T2 fitted T1 BS like the Raven or Domi and fit a LMJD. If I were you, I'd stay in hi-sec and run SOE lev 4's for now and later branch out.

Or you can do like everyone else and join a Null-Sec Alliance and you can rat in their sovereign territories.

Large Micro Jump Drive

It jumps you 100km in whatever direction you are facing. Doesn't work if you're scrammed, but otherwise helps you escape

1) The kind of anger and tears you are openly displaying is like nectar of the gods to much of the EVE population.
They feed on this and it is their greatest satsifaction far beyond mere isk. One day, you too may learn to appreciate its delicious saltiness on your own part.

2) The kind of anger and tears you are openly displaying is getting in the way of your own enjoyment. You have to accept loss in this game, more often than not due to your own mistakes, which others then capitalize on. Think of these as a learning experience from the stick, rather than the carrot, and move on. Its a game, and you are taking it very personally, whereas your antagonists wont even remember your name 30mins later.

3) Familiarize yourself with http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ and relocate accordingly. Sounds to me like you are operating in heavily griefed CODE "terrortory", which is a mistake many newer players make at first. There are many, many places you can move to.

4) Set goals for yourself, skill accordingly, and enjoy the game on your own terms, like you want to. But never forget, that sooner or later, someone will take an enormous **** on you when you slip up. You will come to realize that that is exactly what sets EVE apart from other games, and especially as the "different" MMO you are looking for.

Eve Survival Rule #853: Never interact.

so you lost an imicus and can't stop crying... sad story bro

Learn to format paragraphs and be specific. All I see when I read your post is "... trolling... sucks... 011 great game but... trolling" then you also take the time to write "... waiting just to **** you over" but other place write "fuckboys."

It's just a great shiptoast. 8.5/10


TIPS:
Drop the swearing

Write your rant, come back an hour later, format it into readable paragraphs with spaces between ideas, capital letters, and more specific points. Especially in this case How are people trolling you? What are the circumstances in which the trolling came to be

Join a newbie-friendly player corp

Post in the New Player Help section, not general discussion

Don't dismiss the entire playerbase then make demands and threats ."if the community is still so nasty and volatile.. then im prob going to need to put this wonderful game back on the shelf" Your threat is empty. No one cares if you leave.

180 degree experience of myself. I ve started this game about a month ago and have met only friendly people. Sure...got trolled on the channels a few times and even been killed once but I mistrust strangers in general and I ve been carefull with what I do so I cant complain.

Calm down miner! There is no need to get personal and stuff here. If you operate in New Order territory you are required to follow the Code and display your mining permit (they are only 10mil ISK and valid for a full year).

Like the Ripard Teg alt already said, there are a lot of places you can go. For example we don't claim Lowsec, go mine there if you think rules, order and democracy are not your thing.

I don't really see the problem with EVE alhough I'm only 2-3 weeks old. Lacking a lot of skills (~850k SP) that are slowly getting there. Focusing on gallente, hybrids/drones, support/upgrade skills, upto cruiser level and doing lvl2 missions etc rather than PVP for now. Learn more/become proficient at fits/have some abilities before pro-actively seeking out ways to die/blow sh*t up :)

Corps: I don't want to ask for big-bro help, I know where Google is and where the ingame channels are. I don't want an injection of funds, free ships, processing/industry buffs, I can get the ISK and skills to do that myself and learn something about each career option in the process. I will join a corp in the coming weeks/month once I find something I like the sound of (avoiding both extreme ends of carebear and kill anything anywhere corps). Suggestions are welcomed and maybe it's a bad idea to be waiting? Maybe I'm not expected to jump straight into fleets and go on roams? I can't say that I have the time to commit or maybe EU timezone won't fit and so on. Probs something I'd ask the corp to find out - each one will come with their own risks and rewards I guess

Do I expect to die: yup of course (hopefully I get a little choice in the matter), does it bother me: only a little due to throwing me off the reason I would have been there in the first place. Learned in first week not to spend 30-40m in SP upgrade or fly ships I couldn't afford to lose.

In first week of n00bness and under the impression PVE was PVE, I got killed at Old Man Star (0.3) gate exit by a Hecate, Cynabal and Ishtar whom according to eve-kill just seem to spend their days doing the same thing here and there (almost as bad as mining; pew pew pointless kill no fight back little ISK, oh look a stat increase on a killboard ). My death however was my own fault. Not sure what they get out of it though. Feeling of power over the small fry? Opportunity to get a kill whilst waiting for expensive cargo/salvage? Sec statuses are -9 to -10 so habitual. I can see why it would make those on the receiving end that are new to it want to quit the game if that's their typical experience with travelling to low sec/null.

PvP is fine - all for it - bit more choice of when being engaged would be preferable. PvE also fine though I can see that it would get boring/pointless fairly fast in hi sec. Started as a miner here. As soon as I had the skill/ISK to get a retriever spent two ore holds worth of time and realised exactly how boring that particular career is. No wonder people attack miners, that truly seems a waste of time unless getting mats for production/industry. Boredom levels must be similar to gate camping day in day out same routine.

It has left me a little bemused/intimidated at the idea of venturing into anything lower than 0.5 for now with any decent specced/priced ship. I almost expect there to be campers at every entrance/exit below 0.5 space, maybe I should set aside some throwaway frigs/dessies just to get a better feeling for the number of campers where I'm not > 5 or so jumps from home station so that when I die, more than that is just hassle to head back out, maybe if they didn't kill me, just podded me instead though doesn't then count to their kill stats I guess.

Already signed up to 6 month sub as didn't like 24hr limit on training queue or fact that some skills weren't trainable. Thought since it was only the cost of a new game it'll be worthwhile and so far looking good. Compare the £40 spent on WoW draenor a month or two ago to find it very disappointing/a waste of time and money; and what was an end to a wow sub for a game that hasn't really been played in years.

EVE at least is ever expanding and subject to change. Your skills will continue even if you're not playing, even if you need to take time away, for the cost of a tank of petrol a year it's something that is worth just having whether you're playing or not. I can't comment on what it was like in OPs day but apart from my limited experience of gate camping, as a true n00b I'm liking it.

Sorry - it's a small rambling novel. Off to do something instead