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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#21 - 2015-08-18 00:00:09 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:

It means to improve upon the current state of the sec zone by a measurable amount.


*facepalm*

I'm asking what effects arising from increasing wardec fees would he consider an improvement of highsec. In specific terms, not generalities.


Wat

He already told you he'd answer that more in depth later and you asked what it meant again.

Wat

I am confused.

Leto, I know you nominated me and all, but please STFU and stop speaking for me.

I'm a big boy, I can handle this myself.

I appreciate the concern though.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#22 - 2015-08-18 00:08:32 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I think perhaps you misunderstand.

I merely want to know what "do wonders for highsec" means. I've seen you use it more than once, and I'd like to know what that means.

I see.

I have a love/hate relationship with hisec. I want to move more players out of hisec to experience more of ehat EvE has to offer (as does CCP), but at the same time I also realize that there's a good chance that a majority of players will only ever want to live in hisec. As such, I see hisec as both vital to the survival of EvE, yet also somewhat stagnant and in need of repair.

To "do wonders for hisec" would mean to make it more interesting for the folks who want to stay, while not so wildly profitable that those who would consider leaving stay because they can safely make more ISK there.

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
...what effects arising from increasing wardec fees would he consider an improvement of highsec. In specific terms, not generalities.

One of the things that I think is causing hisec to stagnate is the overabundance of hisec players in NPC corps. I see re-working the wardec system (fees included) as part (and only part mind you) of a process to make joining a player corp more appealing, profitable, yet still vulnerable to wardec. In particular, I see the mass wardeccing of small new-ish corps by large, experienced PvP corps as detrimental to new player corp development.

And that's all I want to say until I've had more time to formulate a position.



Question then. If, as you mentioned, increasing wardec fees would be a start, why would that be preferable to a full rework? I honestly don't trust CCP to follow up by nerfing NPC corps and removing dec dodge in exchange for nerfing wars with increased fees, which would mean that you've just accidentally advocated for a net nerf, and highsec congeals still further.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#23 - 2015-08-18 00:14:20 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I honestly don't trust CCP to follow up by nerfing NPC corps and removing dec dodge in exchange for nerfing wars with increased fees, which would mean that you've just accidentally advocated for a net nerf, and highsec congeals still further.

I share that concern. This is why I think we need someone on the CSM who has hisec and wardecs in mind to keep them to it.

I know that CCP has been all about small, incremental changes lately (except when they're not) and I can understand why. But the problem with incremental change is that it's easy to stop ebfore you're finished. Ideally I'd like a plan in place for all of this (wardec fees, corp changes, hisec income reduction, etc.) before the first change gets made, or to make them all at once.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#24 - 2015-08-18 00:19:34 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I honestly don't trust CCP to follow up by nerfing NPC corps and removing dec dodge in exchange for nerfing wars with increased fees, which would mean that you've just accidentally advocated for a net nerf, and highsec congeals still further.

I share that concern. This is why I think we need someone on the CSM who has hisec and wardecs in mind to keep them to it.

I know that CCP has been all about small, incremental changes lately (except when they're not) and I can understand why. But the problem with incremental change is that it's easy to stop ebfore you're finished. Ideally I'd like a plan in place for all of this (wardec fees, corp changes, hisec income reduction, etc.) before the first change gets made, or to make them all at once.


I agree that highsec conflict needs a CSM member to advocate for us. Our voice is very often ignored, thanks to the various null powers jousting for seats between themselves. But there hasn't been a highsec PvP candidate elected yet. Even Psychotic Monk and Torah Bushido lost out.

Do you think you're electable?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#25 - 2015-08-18 00:29:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I agree that highsec conflict needs a CSM member to advocate for us. Our voice is very often ignored, thanks to the various null powers jousting for seats between themselves. But there hasn't been a highsec PvP candidate elected yet. Even Psychotic Monk and Torah Bushido lost out.

Do you think you're electable?

I wouldn't have accepted if I didn't think I was.

I have the benefit of understanding hisec mechanics and...aggressive playstyles like Monk and Tora without the stigma associated with having ganked half of hisec. I play both sides of the hisec game (PvP and PvE), and have zero connections to any nullsec groups so I think I could appeal to a wider audience than past C&P candidates. EDIT: Plus, I'm the reigning Thunderdome champ for what that's worth. I support CCP making solo tournaments a la Thunderdome, and who wouldn't love to see that? (Their enforcement of rules for the current AT notwithstanding. Yikes.)

Admittedly I was skeptical at first, but it makes sense.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#26 - 2015-08-18 00:32:21 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I agree that highsec conflict needs a CSM member to advocate for us. Our voice is very often ignored, thanks to the various null powers jousting for seats between themselves. But there hasn't been a highsec PvP candidate elected yet. Even Psychotic Monk and Torah Bushido lost out.

Do you think you're electable?

I wouldn't have accepted if I didn't think I was.

I have the benefit of understanding hisec mechanics and...aggressive playstyles like Monk and Tora without the stigma associated with having ganked half of hisec. I play both sides of the hisec game (PvP and PvE), and have zero connections to any nullsec groups so I think I could appeal to a wider audience than past C&P candidates.

Admittedly I was skeptical at first, but it makes sense.


Sounds good to me, then. This felt too much like a "sure, **** it!" kind of acceptance at the outset, and I didn't want to throw in with a candidate who wasn't sure himself if he could actually get it done.

You've got my vote(s).

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#27 - 2015-08-18 00:35:28 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Sounds good to me, then. This felt too much like a "sure, **** it!" kind of acceptance at the outset, and I didn't want to throw in with a candidate who wasn't sure himself if he could actually get it done.

You've got my vote(s).

Thanks. I hope you'll spread the word with your fellow followers of James315. I know I shoot at them from time to time, but it's not to stop them, it's just to help alleviate their boredom. I still think they're one of the best things to happen to hisec in terms of content, well, ever.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#28 - 2015-08-18 00:36:43 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Sounds good to me, then. This felt too much like a "sure, **** it!" kind of acceptance at the outset, and I didn't want to throw in with a candidate who wasn't sure himself if he could actually get it done.

You've got my vote(s).

Thanks. I hope you'll spread the word with your fellow followers of James315. I know I shoot at them from time to time, but it's not to stop them, it's just to help alleviate their boredom. I still think they're one of the best things to happen to hisec in terms of content, well, ever.


The last part goes without saying, and I promise nothing that I can't deliver myself. Put the word out, certainly, but we're still far from election time.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#29 - 2015-08-18 00:45:22 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The last part goes without saying, and I promise nothing that I can't deliver myself. Put the word out, certainly, but we're still far from election time.

I ask nothing more than what people can honestly give.

Thank you. I really appreciated this little chat.

Good hunting to you.

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Don Purple
Snuggle Society
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#30 - 2015-08-18 05:34:55 UTC
I support this product and or service.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#31 - 2015-08-18 09:05:18 UTC
I was waiting for that to reach its conclusion. I supported Bronosn after asking the same questions except I wasn't as round about as you :P

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Mike Adoulin
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#32 - 2015-08-18 12:23:02 UTC
Bronson has the Hamster vote.

He understands our....special needs.

Cool

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#33 - 2015-08-18 23:39:00 UTC
I did say to myself that after that last CSM, I wasn't going to vote again. Never say never, I guess.

Seeing as Bronson Hughes is a hunk of C&P manlove, I shall waiver my stance and vote for this stud muffin.

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Valkin Mordirc
#34 - 2015-08-19 00:29:58 UTC
One of the majority of problems that come from a PvP Oriented Highsec player is that it is often labeled as you put it, "A Stigma" a "Griefer".


I know you don't believe it to be problem. But I really hope others can look past it. I'll have questions for you in your Official CSM post.
#DeleteTheWeak
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#35 - 2015-08-19 00:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
One of the majority of problems that come from a PvP Oriented Highsec player is that it is often labeled as you put it, "A Stigma" a "Griefer".


I know you don't believe it to be problem. But I really hope others can look past it. I'll have questions for you in your Official CSM post.

I do mostly losec PvP, or hisec wardecs against corps my size or larger. I've also moonlighted as a white knight on occasion, mine, and do research and industry (albeit on a small scale). It'd be really hard to pin the "griefer" tag on me.

I welcome you all to try so I can find ways to deal with it.

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Valkin Mordirc
#36 - 2015-08-19 00:54:48 UTC
It's hard to ask questions when I don't know what you are basing your campaign on. Generally I don't vote for CSM's that totally just focused on one thing. The more Jack of All Trades, Master of none, though ofttimes better than master of one" Is pretty much my ideal CSM. So it's good for me to know you focus on a multi-area of EvE.


Just Saying you both a PvPer and a PvE'er to me means nothing though. Everyone indulges in PvE to a certain point. I try to stay away and beat it with a ten-foot-high-density-metal-pole, if it comes to close, because I hate PvE and rather play the market instead. XD Because I find the current PvE incredibly boring. You can't do most missions semi-AFK, like you can in most other MMORPG's, which would be a good thing if Missions weren't so incredibly boring.




Personally my first concerns are,

What is your opinions on the highsec War-dec Mechanic's, Are they good? Do they need changed, if so how?


How do you feel about the High-Income Incruisions? Do they need to have there isk rate adjusted?


Do you think Highsec missions need refining? Or what about Highsec Mining?


How would you make Highsec more engageable to both Bittervets and Newbros alike?

#DeleteTheWeak
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#37 - 2015-08-19 01:39:40 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Personally my first concerns are,

What is your opinions on the highsec War-dec Mechanic's, Are they good? Do they need changed, if so how?


How do you feel about the High-Income Incruisions? Do they need to have there isk rate adjusted?


Do you think Highsec missions need refining? Or what about Highsec Mining?


How would you make Highsec more engageable to both Bittervets and Newbros alike?


I am working on a long, detailed post detailing my views on these items, but the tl;dr version is:

I think they need a rework to make them more meaningful yet harder to dodge.

I feel like hisec income in general is too high compared to the low risk involved.

Yes to both. I feel like the high-profit avenues of both need to be shifted away from 1.0 and towards 0.5.

Wait and see.

You're the third person I've told to be patient and I apologize for that. But...be patient. Your answers are coming.

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Valkin Mordirc
#38 - 2015-08-19 03:16:48 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
[quote=Valkin Mordirc]

I welcome you all to try so I can find ways to deal with it.



You asked for me to try. Depending on how you answer those types of question will get you labeled one way or the other.


If you don't want me to ask then I'll chill but if something small like get's at you the 75+ CSM post will be annoying as **** for you.
#DeleteTheWeak
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#39 - 2015-08-19 11:47:25 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
[quote=Valkin Mordirc]

I welcome you all to try so I can find ways to deal with it.



You asked for me to try. Depending on how you answer those types of question will get you labeled one way or the other.


If you don't want me to ask then I'll chill but if something small like get's at you the 75+ CSM post will be annoying as **** for you.

Who said this got to me? You asked me a bunch of questions (exactly the kind I was looking for BTW), I answered you as best I could in the short term and asked you to wait for the more comprehensive set of answers to come shortly.

That wasn't you getting to me, that was me trying to play catch-up. Blink

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Valkin Mordirc
#40 - 2015-08-19 17:03:03 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
[quote=Valkin Mordirc]

I welcome you all to try so I can find ways to deal with it.



You asked for me to try. Depending on how you answer those types of question will get you labeled one way or the other.


If you don't want me to ask then I'll chill but if something small like get's at you the 75+ CSM post will be annoying as **** for you.

Who said this got to me? You asked me a bunch of questions (exactly the kind I was looking for BTW), I answered you as best I could in the short term and asked you to wait for the more comprehensive set of answers to come shortly.

That wasn't you getting to me, that was me trying to play catch-up. Blink



No one needed to man, that was the point was trying to make, although abstractly, depending on how you word something, some asshat like like me will twist what you say to discredit you. Not because they don't like what you have to say but trolling for the sake of it.

We all here know you a cool dude, but some ramdo looking you up when the CSM stuff comes around isn't going too.


Do you see what I'm trying to get at? I'm just trying to give you some verbal sparring practice before it actually matters.
#DeleteTheWeak
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