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Angel Anoms in null.
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Darvanile
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#1 - 2015-08-04 20:09:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Darvanile
On a whim and mostly for fun because I have never ran them before. I have let my corp mate talk me into doing Angel Cartel Null Anomalies. I want something that can solo the hardest sites. Can a legion run these? If not, what are my options? I really don't want to fly an ishtar or tengu. Any sexy ham legion fits out there?
Pax Deltari
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-08-04 22:12:33 UTC
I don't know about T3's that are able to do it though I hear a lot about people who pair the Tengu and Proteus to great effect.

Are you interested at all in BS's that are able to do it? Cause I'm a RattleSnake FanBoy and I could talk to you about that.. Though if Shield Tanking and drone skills aren't your thing I don't know.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#3 - 2015-08-04 22:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
A recent discussion about the Mach.

Rattlesnake is king however. Missile legion is ok, but not great, you do not want to use lasers against angels.
Darvanile
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#4 - 2015-08-05 00:59:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
A recent discussion about the Mach.

Rattlesnake is king however. Missile legion is ok, but not great, you do not want to use lasers against angels.

Yeah ham legion is what I was looking at. I'm not looking for efficiency, I have an incursion alt for my isk making. I mainly want to know if a legion can handle the stronger sites.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#5 - 2015-08-06 14:44:56 UTC
Any properly fit t3 can handle any null sec anom. Even Forlorn types where you trigger double/triple spawns. And there are plenty fo ways to do it (oversized AB fits, deadspace repper fits, passive tank etc).

The problem is in some cases getting that much tank costs you DPS, Battleship sized hulls are better for null anoms, point blank.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#6 - 2015-08-12 09:44:35 UTC
Having to grind through dozens of high level BS NPCs with half or less dps a decently fit BS has is not going to be 'fun' I can promise you that.

That said maybe look at a semi afk sentry ishtar running Bouncers or Wardens? That way you can at least reduce the chance of RSI and save some wear and tear on your mouse.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-08-12 12:48:47 UTC
Tengu

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Salvos Rhoska
#8 - 2015-08-12 13:53:14 UTC
Minnie gun or Angel ships "should" be optimal for Angels.

But they aint.
Go figure.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-08-14 04:01:24 UTC
I can't beat the ticks I get out of my machariel wtih ACs. I'm running T2 fit (including guns) but only Minnie BS 4 and Gal BS 3. It's going to perform -way- better with both those at 5. Probably push consistently into the 14-16m/tick (Guessing). Right now I can consistently do 12.5-14M ticks. Dual boxing drops this to ~9M per character
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-08-15 10:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
I was running those sites in Proteus (very expensive to fit for a very low DPS ship against Angels, because of natural low explosive resistance). But the problem with T3 is realy low damage output. Legion is even worse if you do it with lasers, not much better if you do it with missiles.

Then I switched to Machariel. And I was sooo surprised how good this ship. It does Sanctums without any problems, I did solo 10/10 several times without any problems.

So if you are interested in high Isk/hour rate, then go for Machariel. If you want to waiste time, then stick with Legion.

Read my post in this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5969011#post5969011 , I explain how to run 10/10
Darvanile
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#11 - 2015-08-16 17:51:15 UTC
Awesome advice, thanks guys. I've decided to give the rattlesnake a go. I'm really not one for enjoying bs hulls in pve. I guess at the very least I can help my corp out with running anoms every once in a while if I use the rattlesnake . If I hate that, I'll just day trip c3 whs in a ship I enjoy.
Cobbler Khan
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-08-16 22:28:58 UTC
Darvanile wrote:
Awesome advice, thanks guys. I've decided to give the rattlesnake a go. I'm really not one for enjoying bs hulls in pve. I guess at the very least I can help my corp out with running anoms every once in a while if I use the rattlesnake . If I hate that, I'll just day trip c3 whs in a ship I enjoy.

You can trip c4 holes in a rattlesnake also btw.

If you ever want to try it/need advice just mail me
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#13 - 2015-08-17 11:22:52 UTC
Darvanile wrote:
Awesome advice, thanks guys. I've decided to give the rattlesnake a go. I'm really not one for enjoying bs hulls in pve. I guess at the very least I can help my corp out with running anoms every once in a while if I use the rattlesnake . If I hate that, I'll just day trip c3 whs in a ship I enjoy.

The machariel handles a lot like a cruiser and the snake performs best in my opinion with sentries and a flight of high tracking heavies for backup.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#14 - 2015-08-17 15:45:43 UTC
If you just HAVE to have a cruiser.

[Gila, Bane of Angels]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Valkyrie II x6
Valkyrie II x2
Hammerhead II x2

Hammerheads and small nuet in case someone tries to kill you, Valks for ratting. Cap stabel with the neut off. Keep AB on and kill anyhting that webs 1st (anything that target paints second, but webs are the worst threat).