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Collapsing C247 WH (300Gg / 2000Gg) without HIC

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Hellios Hyperionia
Exiled Explorer of Jove Empire
#1 - 2015-08-17 14:35:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Hellios Hyperionia
Recently, I'm struggling to tear statics in my WH system.
Although I'm planned to command Onyx, but there's still so much time left.

So I made a short Idea as below to tear apart 2000Gg WH just with Ravens and Drake, which I already have.
Will this work? Please check.


1. Things to prepare

•Raven with MWD & Higgs : 298.6Gg
Single full punch –Maximum mass to crush the wormhole

•Raven with MWD : 149.3Gg
Half punch –Rescue team for Higgs Raven

•Drake with MWD & Higgs : 29.62Gg / 129.62Gg
Poke & Stab –Safe mass at the verge of collapsing


2. Fundamentals & Strategies

•The limit mass varies to 10%
In this case, 1800 ~ 2200

•The wormhole tells how much mass remaining
Check the information of the wormhole
Stable: 100% ~ 50%
Reduced: 50% ~ 10%
Critical: 10% ~ 0%

•The wormhole says ‘reduced’ after ship passed
Say that the mass of the ship was X
the limit is 1800 and remaining was slightly over 900
Ithe limit is 2200 and it reduced because the remaining is now slightly below 1100
The remaining mass is (900-X) ~ 1100

If a Higgs Raven make the wormhole ‘reduced,’ the remaining mass range abut 600 ~ 1100,
which assures that Higgs Raven can pass through two times at least (Higgs Raven is slightly below 300)

•The wormhole still says ‘reduced’ after ship passed
This assures the remaining mass over 180!
Higgs Drake can take a safe round-trip to the wormhole

•The wormhole says ‘critical’
This assures the remaining mass below 220
If we have a Higgs Raven beyond the wormhole, It’s done!


3. How it works

•Make the wormhole ‘reduced’ with Higgs Raven
Pass through the Raven one by one
DO NOT enter if there’s already a Raven on other side
DO NOT return if the wormhole says ‘reduced’

•Pass additional 600 mass leaving a Higgs Raven
If a Higgs Raven is already on the other side after ‘reduced,’ just take a round-trip with another Higgs Raven (300 x 2)
If there is nothing on the other side, take a round-trip with a Raven (150 x 2) and pass a Higgs Raven (300)

•Make the wormhole ‘critical’ with Higgs Drake
In ‘reduced’ state, the Higgs drake can safely pass through
Turn on MWD and pass through until it says ‘critical’
If it says ‘critical’ and the Higgs Drake is on the other side, Turn OFF MWD and return

(In reduced state, it assures 180 mass. There should be 50 or more mass after 130 mass of MWD Higgs Drake.
So the 30 mass of Higgs Drake always be able to return keeping the wormhole)

•Return the Higgs Raven
The poor wormhole should be collapsed! Eat cake!

****Always turn on the MWD of Ravens (Higgs or not)
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#2 - 2015-08-17 14:59:47 UTC
Wether to use a raven, tempest, megathron or machariel is your call. However-

Assuming just 2 higgs-BS:
1) Jump both out light, jump back heavy (1b, shows upward/downward deviation)

2a) went massed, repeat 1)
2b) not massed yet, do another pass both heavy.

Works on all unbugged holes. My rolling BS got 292m each afaik, HICing about one out of 20.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-08-17 15:43:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Really? It's 4 orca passes or 8 BS passes. Really not hard.
Adjust if you have uselessly rigged BSs on hand.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#4 - 2015-08-17 15:47:44 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Really? It's 4 orca passes or 8 BS passes. Really not hard.
Adjust if you have uselessly rigged BSs on hand.


Totally going to roll a hole at 1.5AU/s with an orca boating back to the hole at 60ms... Roll
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#5 - 2015-08-17 19:57:55 UTC
speed roca. fit overdrives and 100mn mwd it will go around 250 , with thruster rigs over 340 on mwd . without speed mods and just dry mwd should do 110 - 140ms
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-08-18 06:47:12 UTC
It's the easiest way. If you don't like it, feel free to use frigates for all I care.

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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#7 - 2015-08-18 09:03:05 UTC
how to collapse the c1 wh . mangling it with retriever takes soooo long.
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-08-18 10:35:25 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
how to collapse the c1 wh . mangling it with retriever takes soooo long.


quick hint: Stare at it. The longer you stare at the wormhole the higher the chance it collapses. Worked at least for me years ago.

On my gravestone will be written: "Died because he used sarcasm in the wrong moment"

KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#9 - 2015-08-18 16:55:41 UTC
My hole is a big one with 5b mass. Tempests are the closest to max at 299m and a 3 bubble 100mn higgs hic are all you need.

Sometimes a 100mn cloaky nullified and stabbed higgsgu is good for crushing those holes with hair around them... not a fast process though.
Koston Eld
Extra Galactic Expeditions
#10 - 2015-08-20 22:13:37 UTC
Use Higgs battleships. No prop=light 100mn ab active an entire cycle=heavy.

2b holes L H. L H to check mass. If s2 do L H. L H again. If s1 still after the first 2 battleship L H's, do 2 H H.

Always make sure before final heavy return the hole is s3. If it isn't, keep BS cloaked in hostile hole, push hole to s3 with a running t3, then close with the battleship heavy.
Koston Eld
Extra Galactic Expeditions
#11 - 2015-08-20 22:14:24 UTC
The 5bil mass holes are so easy too, just more jumps thru with the 300kg battleship and it's easy math
Koston Eld
Extra Galactic Expeditions
#12 - 2015-08-20 22:37:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Koston Eld
The c1 20mil max/500mil holes suck bad but doable. Avoid retrievers so I can use prop mods. I have used 2 thoraxes with Higgs and like an 800 and 400mm plate, gets them to 19.6-19.8 depending on armor skills.

Use alts or friends. Count activations, 12-14 to push hole to s2. Count closely after this.
8-10 to go s3. Now depending if it went s3 going into the hole from home, return light and do another H H.
If you are coming back from hostile hole H and it goes s3, go in L and come back H to crash.

If it remains and VERY crit, you can use a bomber with Higgs L with a mass of 2.8, and return H for a mass of 13, should crash.