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★ Illegal Investments ★ Banking ★ 10% Interest!

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Illegal Spokeswoman
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-08-16 22:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
★ Illegal Investments ★
Banking



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Banking with Illegal Investments.
Backed by our trading empire we are able to bring a strong, stable ever improving service to our customers.
Illegal Investments provides multiple account options allowing customers to weigh their own isk vs reward.

Illegal Investments Account Overview!
*View Illegal Investments main account detailing total deposits and interest (estimate) paid daily.


Accounts

"Venture" Savings Account
  • 0.00 - 500,000,000.00
  • 0.083% Daily Compounding Interest (2.5% Monthly) *Paid into account at the end of each day. Except first day of deposit.
  • Partial or full withdrawals upon request.
  • Private link allowing you to view your account with Illegal Investments.

  • "Orca" Savings Account
  • 500,000,000.00 - 5,000,000,000.00
  • 0.17% Daily Compounding Interest (5% Monthly) *Paid into account at the end of each day. Except first day of deposit.
  • Partial or full withdrawals upon request.
  • Private link allowing you to view your account with Illegal Investments.

  • "Rorqual" Savings Account
  • 5,000,000,000.00 - 10,000,000,000.00
  • 0.25% Daily Compounding Interest (7.5% Monthly) *Paid into account at the end of each day. Except first day of deposit.
  • Partial or full withdrawals upon request.
  • Private link allowing you to view your account with Illegal Investments.

  • "Citadel" Savings Account
  • 10,000,000,000.00 - 25,000,000,000.00
  • 0.33% Daily Compounding Interest (10% Monthly) *Paid into account at the end of each day. Except first day of deposit.
  • Partial or full withdrawals upon request.
  • Private link allowing you to view your account with Illegal Investments.

  • Example of how your deposit could look over time.


    * Broker Accounts are being reworked. I'm planning to add additional benefits to these accounts.
    "Broker" Savings Account * This account is offered to special individuals who have helped directly with the growth of Illegal Investments.
  • 0.00 - 25,000,000,000.00
  • 0.33% Daily Compounding Interest (10% Monthly) *Paid into account at the end of each day. Except first day of deposit.
  • Partial or full withdrawals upon request.
  • Private link allowing you to view your account with Illegal Investments.

  • ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Making a Deposit / Account
    Search for Illegal Investments using People & Places and use the Give isk function found by clicking on the four white lines in the top left corner of the corporation window.
    Following the same procedure as above locate Illegal Clone 001 but send message (eve mail) and mention the deposit.
    * After account creation you will be mailed a link that allows you view your account. Save this for future use.

    Making a Withdrawal
    Mail Illegal Clone 001 ingame with the character/CEO of corp that holds the account - detail the amount and when you would like to withdraw.

    Mailing list - Illegal Investments
    * Updates and changes to our service.
    * Monthly eve mail detailing how things are going with Illegal Investments, any major changes or announcements, breakdown of income/expenditures.

    Contact Us
    Illegal Clone 001 ingame or join the ingame channel Illegal Investments.
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #2 - 2015-08-16 22:48:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Additional
    Illegal Investments is run by a singular person. I manage and run all of the trades, organise contracts and maintain the spreadsheets to keep track Illegal Investments account holders.
    This also means that no one other than myself has access to the isk you deposit.

    Illegal Investments reserves the right to withdraw funds back to the account holder at anytime.

    Illegal Investments is TRADING corporation and makes all of its isk though TRADING, the purpose of this thread is to allow people to deposit isk and earn interest while Illegal Investments profits from the use of the isk in TRADING.


    This thread may need to be moved to the Sell Orders forum section as a Service but I'll let the mods decide.


    ★ Announcements ★

    26th October 2015
    Illegal Investments is Back!

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    Star Killer14
    Core World Imperium
    #3 - 2015-08-16 23:08:31 UTC
    Hello,

    I would like to know some information about your plans, goals, and past experience.

    I would like to know how your last loan went with Thor Nergal. Also I would like to know why you are asking for money when you clearly said in your last attempt at a bond that you are done with this forum section in not the most gracious of ways. You also mentioned that you had other investors, who were they and are they still invested?

    Why should we trust you as unless I missed something this looks a lot like your last bond, no collateral and a large or no limit on total investments? Also why do you need this money, what are your plans for using this money?

    Thanks for your time, I will ask more questions as I think of them.
    goodlady Smith
    TheCrazy88s
    #4 - 2015-08-16 23:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: goodlady Smith
    Hi,

    Couple of questions:

    1. Is the interest compounding?
    2. Is there any collateral lodged with a 3rd party - if yes what.
    3. Is there a max / min account size?
    4. The corporation is a couple of months old, is there previous history?
    5. Do you use something to track P&L like eve mogul?

    Cheers

    Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #5 - 2015-08-16 23:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    goodlady Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    Couple of questions:
    1. Is the interest compounding?
    2. Is there any collateral lodged with a 3rd party - if yes what.
    3. Is there a max / min account size?

    Cheers =D



    1. The Interest is compounding.

    2. There is no collateral held by any 3rd party.

    3. At the moment there is no account size limit however as mentioned in the OP I reserve the right to return funds to account holders if the account funds are likely to generate TOO much interest for me to handle. That is not likely to be something that would happen any time soon however. The amount in the account would have to be hundreds of billions for that to be an issue.

    4. The only previous history would be with 'Mighty Enterprises' where I was the CEO, created by a RL friend and myself it was an industral focused corporation and hosted a public mining fleet.

    5. I do use eve mogul, mostly for the leaderboard. I use EVEHQ for all my records and analysis.
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #6 - 2015-08-16 23:41:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Star Killer14 wrote:
    Hello,

    I would like to know some information about your plans, goals, and past experience.

    I would like to know how your last loan went with Thor Nergal. Also I would like to know why you are asking for money when you clearly said in your last attempt at a bond that you are done with this forum section in not the most gracious of ways. You also mentioned that you had other investors, who were they and are they still invested?

    Why should we trust you as unless I missed something this looks a lot like your last bond, no collateral and a large or no limit on total investments? Also why do you need this money, what are your plans for using this money?

    Thanks for your time, I will ask more questions as I think of them.



    I have traded on and off since I started eve in september 2013. In early June I sold of on my exsisting characters and created Illegal Investments along with the 6 characters.

    The last "bond" request was a good learning experiance having never really dabbled in loans and bonds. This thread however is slightly different. I'm not directly requesting isk, I'm just advertising the (kinda) banking service I have setup.

    Thor was interested in getting into loaning and I was looking to get some history. I ended the loan a week or so early paying the full interest.

    Current account holders can be seen in the 'View Accounts' There are as of this moment 3 accounts open with 1.3b in isk (Roughly).

    The isk deposited by account holders is held in the corporations main account and is used along with other corp funds to invest in various inter-regional trades.
    There are no limits as this is not a traditional 'Investment' it's more of a banking styled system where people deposit ISK, I then use the isk to trade and the spreadsheet View Accounts keeps track of each account.
    goodlady Smith
    TheCrazy88s
    #7 - 2015-08-17 01:35:31 UTC
    Thanks Illegal - for the prompt answersLol

    Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

    Koniforous
    Tauren Transit
    #8 - 2015-08-17 05:54:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Koniforous
    Eve-Mogul leaderboards, Current Month Traders section:

    1 Rita Jita Universal E 37,287,921,529.79
    2 Rykker Bow E 24,712,340,194.40
    3 It's All Good P 23,871,925,558.72
    4 Anonymous E 20,880,544,482.43
    5 Darion E 17,113,371,641.10
    6 Teralius E 14,945,393,440.89
    7 Stratton Oakmont E 14,063,125,274.14
    8 Teh trade P 11,207,678,014.49
    9 Ron Penshar E 10,960,582,935.69
    10 Anonymous P 9,468,545,003.34


    1b a day profits would put you at about rank #5.5 as of the 16th of this month...

    But you are not even ranked #10 (about 500m per day)...

    If you are making 1b a day why are you interested in banking/bonds? Your profits seem* wonderful without any gaps in your workable capital.

    Also, why have you listed your COMPOUND DAILY interest at 15% monthly? Why is it so high? Banks offer low low low interest rates to keep their business models sustainable and dependable.

    Why is it daily?

    What is your deposit cap? Per account? For the entire bank?
    Cista2
    EVE Museum
    #9 - 2015-08-17 06:11:54 UTC
    A bank offering roughly 80% interest per month, this will end great :)

    My channel: "Signatures" -

    Star Killer14
    Core World Imperium
    #10 - 2015-08-17 07:25:32 UTC
    I have a few more questions for you:
    1) What is your total net worth
    2) Is all of your isk used for trading or do you have more than 15% of total worth tied up in other assets, PVP, PVE, long term speculation, other?
    3) How many open, unused, order slots do you have?
    4) Do you have tycoon lvl 5, if not what do you have and will you be getting tycoon lvl 5?
    5) What is your business model/plan, more then just buy low sell high? No specifics are needed but more details would be great.
    6) Do you only trade or do you have other areas that make up more than 10% of total profit?
    7) How does more isk help you make more isk, other than the isk injection from the investor at the very start?
    8) How many accounts do you have, what is you overhead, do you want/plan/currently plex them all?
    9) If you claim to be a bank then you should have a plan/way to pay back investors in the case you fail miserably at trading suddenly, missed 0, CCP changes the game suddenly, etc?
    10) Why should we trust you?
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #11 - 2015-08-17 08:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Koniforous wrote:
    Eve-Mogul leaderboards, Current Month Traders section:

    1 Rita Jita Universal E 37,287,921,529.79
    2 Rykker Bow E 24,712,340,194.40
    3 It's All Good P 23,871,925,558.72
    4 Anonymous E 20,880,544,482.43
    5 Darion E 17,113,371,641.10
    6 Teralius E 14,945,393,440.89
    7 Stratton Oakmont E 14,063,125,274.14
    8 Teh trade P 11,207,678,014.49
    9 Ron Penshar E 10,960,582,935.69
    10 Anonymous P 9,468,545,003.34


    1b a day profits would put you at about rank #5.5 as of the 16th of this month...

    But you are not even ranked #10 (about 500m per day)...

    If you are making 1b a day why are you interested in banking/bonds? Your profits seem* wonderful without any gaps in your workable capital.

    Also, why have you listed your COMPOUND DAILY interest at 15% monthly? Why is it so high? Banks offer low low low interest rates to keep their business models sustainable and dependable.

    Why is it daily?

    What is your deposit cap? Per account? For the entire bank?



    I came back from holiday on sunday morning, the API hasn't refreshed since 13:15:25 that day, when it refreshes I should appear.

    I like little projects to keep me busy.

    I believe 15% is a fair amount. I can make well over 15% with the ISK deposited in a month.

    It's daily because I didn't want people to feel their ISK was tied up in one place for so long. The ISK can be withdrawn at any day in the month and you would still recieve some interest.

    There currently isn't a deposit cap, as it is unlikely that anyone would drop a few hundred bill into an account atm. However I may create a cap as time goes on.
    You will also note that as posted in the OP, "I reserve the right to withdraw funds from any account to the account holder if I feel the amount is too large for myself to sustain the interest payments."
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #12 - 2015-08-17 08:47:41 UTC
    Cista2 wrote:
    A bank offering roughly 80% interest per month, this will end great :)


    It's about 16.1% monthly.
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #13 - 2015-08-17 09:18:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Star Killer14 wrote:
    I have a few more questions for you:
    1) What is your total net worth
    2) Is all of your isk used for trading or do you have more than 15% of total worth tied up in other assets, PVP, PVE, long term speculation, other?
    3) How many open, unused, order slots do you have?
    4) Do you have tycoon lvl 5, if not what do you have and will you be getting tycoon lvl 5?
    5) What is your business model/plan, more then just buy low sell high? No specifics are needed but more details would be great.
    6) Do you only trade or do you have other areas that make up more than 10% of total profit?
    7) How does more isk help you make more isk, other than the isk injection from the investor at the very start?
    8) How many accounts do you have, what is you overhead, do you want/plan/currently plex them all?
    9) If you claim to be a bank then you should have a plan/way to pay back investors in the case you fail miserably at trading suddenly, missed 0, CCP changes the game suddenly, etc?
    10) Why should we trust you?



    1. My current total networths as of this moment (according to eveassets) 82b. I began with 65b. GRAPH Note, the jump from 30 to 65 was me selling a character.

    2. Only trade.

    3. I as of waking up this morning, 262 Active orders accross the 5 trade hubs. I will note however that I got back from holiday on Sunday and i'm still waiting for some (52b in sell orders and the rest in transit)

    4. All of my trading characters have tycoon 4 and are training 5 as we speed (7 days left), once all the relevant trade skills are complete I'm going to begin trading reserach skills and work on some invention as another side project.

    5. I focus on T2, faction and deadspace modules (low volume high profit).
    After waking up I post the sell orders from the night before and update them again through out the day as I see necessary. In the early afternoon I begin looking for items to move and before I got to bed I create the courier contracts. Rince and Repeat.

    6. Only Trade.

    7. More isk allows me to purchase more goods to ship out to other trade hubs and sell. I have yet to fully supply one trade hub so there is plently of room for growth. I profit for the marginal difference between goods in one region from another, after including courier fees and other expenses the profits are usually still pretty good.

    8. I currently have 6 accounts, 5 trading characters (Illegal Spokeswomen is on the same account as Illegal Clone 001). I also have an old PVP character on his own account which has sentimental value so I keep him subscribed aswell, though I rarely use him.
    I PLEX them every month with the profits I make from trading.

    9. I never considered the possibility of failure... Account Holders are free to withdraw their ISK whenever they like.

    10. I have no interest in stealing deposits when I can potentially double them in a month.
    I think the people that enjoy scamming and stealing enjoy the gameplay more than the reward (Though I don't doubt they enjoy the rewards too).
    I on the other hand enjoy spreadsheets, organisation and ISK managment.
    Your ISK provides me with more gameplay and yourself with a Interest reward for your trust.
    Cista2
    EVE Museum
    #14 - 2015-08-17 09:45:35 UTC
    Illegal Spokeswoman wrote:
    Cista2 wrote:
    A bank offering roughly 80% interest per month, this will end great :)


    It's about 16.1% monthly.

    Really? 0.5% daily compound interest is 80% monthly, incidentally also what your own example shows.

    My channel: "Signatures" -

    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #15 - 2015-08-17 10:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Cista2 wrote:
    Illegal Spokeswoman wrote:
    Cista2 wrote:
    A bank offering roughly 80% interest per month, this will end great :)


    It's about 16.1% monthly.

    Really? 0.5% daily compound interest is 80% monthly, incidentally also what your own example shows.


    That image is out of date. If you click on the 'View Accounts' and navigate to one of the account holders you'll get a better idea.

    Edit: I've updated the example on the OP. Here is a LINK to the new image.
    Rykker Bow
    Center for Advanced Studies
    #16 - 2015-08-17 12:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykker Bow
    Cista2 wrote:
    this will end great :)

    Agreed. I'm surprised it's gotten this far without an uproar as any bank thread tends to have. IMO, a large scale bank operation could work in Eve with the right person/people involved and prospectus as there is a demand for them.

    The problem is trust. Who are you?


    Illegal Spokeswoman wrote:

    I'm no longer intrested in dealing with investers on the forums.


    Also, you posted this on July 1st, 2015 with a rather rude finger gesture at the end. Why has this changed a month later?

    The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated - The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards

    Cista2
    EVE Museum
    #17 - 2015-08-17 12:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
    Rykker Bow wrote:
    Why has this changed a month later?

    Because moneyz.

    I stand corrected though about the 80%, I had read that data wrong (there were two deposits).

    My channel: "Signatures" -

    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #18 - 2015-08-17 12:36:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Rykker Bow wrote:
    Cista2 wrote:
    this will end great :)

    Agreed. I'm surprised it's gotten this far without an uproar as any bank thread tends to have. IMO, a large scale bank operation could work in Eve with the right person/people involved and prospectus as there is a demand for them.

    The problem is trust. Who are you?


    Illegal Spokeswoman wrote:

    I'm no longer intrested in dealing with investers on the forums.


    Also, you posted this on July 1st, 2015 with a rather rude finger gesture at the end. Why has this changed a month later?



    That finger gesture was not part of the IGNORE. That was just there when I made the thread.

    As mentioned a few times, I'm not running this so much as an investment opertunity for a month then paying out, but allowing people to hold accounts that will stay open indefernatly (like having a bank account).


    To me a month is a substantial amount of time.
    I reworked the now Accounts sheet and how everything is handled. Got 3 Account holders all of which found me (I didn't advertise).

    After being prased for the good work I was doing by current account holders I decided I would publicly announce it so people could discuss and critic.
    Droodid
    Antec Enterprises
    #19 - 2015-08-17 13:36:48 UTC
    You don't have any collateral yourself but you'll make damn well sure I have collateral when I go overdrawn? Sod off.
    Illegal Spokeswoman
    Doomheim
    #20 - 2015-08-17 14:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Illegal Spokeswoman
    Droodid wrote:
    You don't have any collateral yourself but you'll make damn well sure I have collateral when I go overdrawn? Sod off.


    Yes, though specifics on that may change depending on the individual Account holder.

    The collateral is to discourage potential abuse.
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