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Titus Madullier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-08-16 19:48:58 UTC
I remember a couple months ago there being an log off button so you could easily switching between characters. Why did they get rid of it?
I find it annoying have to completely quit the game to get on my other character !
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-08-16 19:49:44 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Titus Madullier wrote:
I remember a couple months ago there being an log off button so you could easily switching between characters. Why did they get rid of it?
I find it annoying have to completely quit the game to get on my other character !

Legacy Code... I miss it too.

I think the removal had something to do with changes to the launcher, and needing a new login session per character. Basically it was tech related, rather than UX related.

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Choo Mi
Sneggy Pit
#3 - 2015-08-16 19:51:48 UTC
i have one, you have to log in again but it brings up the load screen
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2015-08-16 19:59:39 UTC
Because ⌘Q → Play is a lot faster than the logoff ever was.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2015-08-16 20:50:41 UTC
Your memory is faulty.

The "Log Off button" never did what it was supposed to.

The only way to switch characters was to completely log out of the game. It has always been this way since the beginning of EVE.

Why? Because of some deeply ingrained legacy code that (and I am paraphrasing here); require a team of DEVs to spend 6 months to revise the code that would ultimately save players about a minute or so.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-08-16 20:58:49 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Your memory is faulty.

The "Log Off button" never did what it was supposed to.

The only way to switch characters was to completely log out of the game. It has always been this way since the beginning of EVE.

Why? Because of some deeply ingrained legacy code that (and I am paraphrasing here); require a team of DEVs to spend 6 months to revise the code that would ultimately save players about a minute or so.



MMmmmm must be my memmory playing tricks on me then as i remembered you could do that in the early years , around 2004/2005 .

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#7 - 2015-08-17 03:31:14 UTC
flakeys wrote:
MMmmmm must be my memmory playing tricks on me then as i remembered you could do that in the early years , around 2004/2005 .


I've been here since 06 and I'm also fairly sure there used to be a "change characters" button.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/2208/2401/escmenuold.jpg

This makes me look like a liar, but in the meantime, it does show a logoff button.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#8 - 2015-08-17 04:32:48 UTC
I've been here since 04, there has never been a 'switch character' or 'log off' button like you think. Logoff and quit did pretty much the same thing. Dump you to desktop. If anything logoff dumped you to the initial log in screen. All you need to do now is close the client and hit logon again with the launcher. i do it all the time

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flakeys
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-08-17 07:44:35 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I've been here since 04, there has never been a 'switch character' or 'log off' button like you think. Logoff and quit did pretty much the same thing. Dump you to desktop. If anything logoff dumped you to the initial log in screen. All you need to do now is close the client and hit logon again with the launcher. i do it all the time



That is how i recall it.It logged you out of the game but into the character screen wich did save you some time.Now you need to load the launcher , then load the character screen and then you can log in to the game.Not that it matters much in time and effort.

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#10 - 2015-08-17 07:49:10 UTC
I think CCP should just do a compromise - have a button in the client that closes the client and has the launcher open a new one, authenticated for that same account.

It won't be much faster but people will think that it is.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#11 - 2015-08-18 00:20:44 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
I think CCP should just do a compromise - have a button in the client that closes the client and has the launcher open a new one, authenticated for that same account.

It won't be much faster but people will think that it is.

It will require one less click though. Rejoice!

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Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2015-08-18 00:40:35 UTC
FWIW, Clicking the launch button on the launcher will log off the current client linked to that account and reopen the client at the character selection window. That "saves a click"

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Kev Ftw
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#13 - 2015-08-18 11:01:11 UTC
The log off button did used to do what it was supposed to do, it would take you back to the character selection screen for the account that client was running.

Now if you want to switch characters but have already changed character on a different account, you have to log back in again which is fcking annoying. Hitting play doesn't work when it's launching the wrong account.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#14 - 2015-08-18 11:12:47 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
FWIW, Clicking the launch button on the launcher will log off the current client linked to that account and reopen the client at the character selection window. That "saves a click"

It doesn't though, because you still have to dismiss the client that gets disconnected.
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#15 - 2015-08-18 12:23:19 UTC
Kev Ftw wrote:
The log off button did used to do what it was supposed to do, it would take you back to the character selection screen for the account that client was running.

Now if you want to switch characters but have already changed character on a different account, you have to log back in again which is fcking annoying. Hitting play doesn't work when it's launching the wrong account.



Not any time recently.

The log off button always closed the client, then reopened it on the login screen. (That's going from when I started. I'm pretty sure it was like that before, but I don't have personal experience of it.)

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#16 - 2015-08-18 15:51:12 UTC
flakeys wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
I've been here since 04, there has never been a 'switch character' or 'log off' button like you think. Logoff and quit did pretty much the same thing. Dump you to desktop. If anything logoff dumped you to the initial log in screen. All you need to do now is close the client and hit logon again with the launcher. i do it all the time



That is how i recall it.It logged you out of the game but into the character screen wich did save you some time.Now you need to load the launcher , then load the character screen and then you can log in to the game.Not that it matters much in time and effort.


no i think you misunderstood. it never took you to the char select screen. only to the 'hit log in screen' as opposed to the desk top.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#17 - 2015-08-18 17:30:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Because ⌘Q → Play is a lot faster than the logoff ever was.
Or play in windowed mode. Then you need only click the little X on the client you want to switch. Takes about 10 seconds to switch a character on the same acct. and maybe 20 seconds to open a character on another acct.

Either way, you need to be seriously ADHD if that's not fast enough for you.

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Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2015-08-18 17:40:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
FWIW, Clicking the launch button on the launcher will log off the current client linked to that account and reopen the client at the character selection window. That "saves a click"

It doesn't though, because you still have to dismiss the client that gets disconnected.

I'm not sure if you are splitting hairs for the sake of it or if you didn't understand how this saves a click when trying to get a different toon logged in. Yes, you have to click to close the window but this is after the fact. If time is of the essence it does save a tick or two. OP stated you have to quit the client to log in another toon, this is not true.

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KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2015-08-18 18:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
I want an option in the launcher to remember my login info longer than a day. It bothers me how many random passwords i've memorized

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#20 - 2015-08-20 13:50:58 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
FWIW, Clicking the launch button on the launcher will log off the current client linked to that account and reopen the client at the character selection window. That "saves a click"

It doesn't though, because you still have to dismiss the client that gets disconnected.

I'm not sure if you are splitting hairs for the sake of it or if you didn't understand how this saves a click when trying to get a different toon logged in. Yes, you have to click to close the window but this is after the fact. If time is of the essence it does save a tick or two. OP stated you have to quit the client to log in another toon, this is not true.

Splitting hairs then, I guess.
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