Ships & Modules

Howdy,

I've been with EVE for over 10 years and 99% of the time has been spent flying shield tankers. I have zero issues putting together a ship with DPS and shield tank. Now, over the years, the mechanics for armor tanking has changed some with the introduction to the Armor Resistance Shifting Armor Hardener (that's a mouth full). I've been trying to integrate my ship fitting methods used on shield tankers to armor tankers. Yes, I can still get insane DPS; however, the armor tank flat out sucks. Between the really slow rep time of the armor repairer module and the subpar resists, I'm lead to wonder if being able to armor tank and output good DPS is even possible. It would seem to me that one is stuck trying to achieve DPS OR achieve an armor tank.

Most of the ships I fly are Caldari-based (Gurista's, Caldari Navy, Mordu's Legion, and Sansha's). All of my fits are designed to be in favor of DPS while maintaining a decent shield tank for running missions in Caldari space. I'm getting bored of missiles and drones and want to fly Serpentis. I've used EFT to sketch up possible fittings and I simply cannot get a good tank and DPS combo. I've started running missions for a new corp; so, I'm stuck with level 2's for now. I want to try the Vigilant with blasters and an AB. I suppose a speed tank is what I should outfit for? I know Serpentis are geared more for PvP with the webber/warp sram bonus; but, their damage output is more desirable than Gallente ships.

Thanks in advance for the tips/advice.

If I am shield tanking, I like to see all resists close to 75% or better. For cruiser DPS, around 400 or so. So far, the Gurista ships are the only ones I can get near 80% resists with 750+ DPS. But, as I said, I want to fly a hybrid boat (no moa).

I have flown most all faction ships with the exception of SoE, Blood Raiders and Serpentis. I have always admired the serpentis ships, just never got around to flying them.

This is what I came up with for a level 2 mission runner. It has over 500 DPS and the resists are where I want them. I can swap the rails for neutron blasters and add a webber if I want to go that route. I'm trying to keep the faction mods to a minimum. Once I get into level 3 missions, I'll most likely switch over to a Navy Brutix.

[Vigilant, Rails]
Medium Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Energized Thermic Membrane
True Sansha Energized Kinetic Membrane
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Reactive Armor Hardener
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Hammerhead II x5

wow such troll

I initially read the thread title as something like: "How can I shot web?"

After reading it, I have not changed my opinion. After ten years in the game you must have at least *some* idea of how to armour tank a ship.

Assuming this isn't a troll, it is totally unnecessary to use more than one slot for tank on level 2 missions when you have that much DPS.

This has 140 more DPS and will do level 2 missions much faster as most of your time will be spent in warp. This fit should also be more than sufficient for level 3s, for the more difficult Angels missions you can switch a mag stab or TE for an explosive hardener.

[Vigilant, Rails]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II


Hammerhead II x5

Using T2 guns will get you another 60 DPS.

Using rails is preferred as flying to the target with blasters takes more time than shooting them from range with slightly less DPS.

So I understand that you are looking to blitz your way through these level 2's but just bear with me a bit and read on.

[Tristan, Mission]

2x Light Neutron Blaster II (Antimatter Charge S)

2x Cap Recharger II
1MN Afterburner II

Small Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Small Nanobot Accelerator II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I

5x Hobgoblin II

[Federation Navy Comet, Mission]

2x Light Neutron Blaster II (Antimatter Charge S)

2x Cap Recharger II
1MN Afterburner II

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Armor Repairer II

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Nanobot Accelerator II
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II

3x hobgoblin II


[Vexor, Mission]

4x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II (Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M)

2x Cap Recharger II
2x Tracking Computer II

Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
2x Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

5x Hobgoblin II
5x Hammerhead II

I run level 2 and many level 3 missions in these fits and have no trouble.
You have 500 dps and are worried about resists? With that dps output and running level 2's all you need is a T1 armor rep and to hell with the tank mods you should be in and out so fast that resist mods are virtually irrelevant.

However if you are more concerned with the PvP side of things while running missions then forget all that crap up there ^.

Yes, I have heard of the Hecate. Who hasn't? I am not trained to fly that ship yet. I'll get into it sometime down the road.

I didn't need help fitting for lvl 2. I just needed help in how to outfit armor tanking ships. Since most of the mid slots on shield tankers are reserved for buffing the tank, I figured the exact same thing for armor tankers for their low slots. The problem I ran into was finding a balance of DPS/WPN mods and tanking mods. Now that some others have shed a bit of light on this, I am currently running lvl 3's in the Vigilant. I swap between blasters and rails, which both provide good fun and a challenge compared to missile boats. Not saying missile boats aren't fun, they just take away the challenge of running missions.

I am not a troll. I've been so focused in one aspect of the game, I had forgotten how to do other things (ie, outfit armor tanking ships).

Thanks peeps for the tips and advice! Fly Safe o7