Crime & Punishment

Good morning, Starbuck05!

I agree with you insofar as the cost of Globby’s tutorial seems unreasonably high. Of course, that very much depends on several factors not outlined in his pitch.

Firstly there is the time factor. You pay CCP hf in order to log in to the game; that is, you pay real money. Globby has presumably factored that in to his final tally. Each student will require different levels of support and guidance and will therefore make unquantifiable demands upon his time.

Most of us have either learned from more experienced players in our Corp or done the necessary background work of reading. Some players do the tutorials and then head straight out to ….mine. If these players fancy rolling a gank alt with Globby as tutor, they’ll probably need instructing from scratch. Believe me, I’ve met quite a few of them in my quest for adventure. They are also the players who are likely to have the odd billion floating around.

There is also the cost of the T1 or T2 Catalysts; it isn’t clear whether these will be funded by the tutor or not. Typical module drops from downed Catalysts are not great, and Retrievers (for example) are rarely generous loot-wise.

If, as you suggest, the would-be acolyte could simply ‘log on 2 throwaway alts’ and ‘go gank a miner’, there would surely be a requirement for a minimum of 2 accounts (i.e. possibly a third to provide the warp-in/looter); not something everybody wants or can afford. Better to use a spare alt on your main account, let Globby work his stuff, providing the (his, paid-for) support and then decide whether you want to take it further.

As for miner-ganking being ‘that simple’, I agree that the bare facts of the matter do have a kind of alluring directness about them:

Undock

Warp to target

Lock

Scram

Shoot

Success!

But you know as well as I do that the devil is in the detail here; and it is disingenuous of you to suggest that even the most straightforward solo gank doesn’t involve a certain amount of crucial work in the setting up, execution and successful rounding-off of the attempt.

Things go wrong. I messed up a ‘simple’ gank only yesterday. My own fault; didn’t follow my in-built checklist, then fingers n thumbs!

So, there is also the stuff that Globby will have to teach about what to do when things don’t go to plan. When an anti-ganker appears, for instance (although that is very rare…).

All this takes time; Globby’s time. Why should he distil an EVE’s lifetime’s teaching for the benefit of a student, for nothing?

Starbuck05, I look to you to write the definitive ganking guide and offer it to the playerbase. It shouldn’t take long, based on your comment!

Will I get a medal at the end? Like a swimming lessons badge I can sow onto my Speedos?

Where there's an NPC there's a way.

heh that's fair enough. You're right about throwaway not being a good choice, the only one worse is disposable. The reason I picked up on it, as did others, is because some people use the words interchangeably while continuing to spread the myth that biomassing alts a regular occurrence amongst the more criminal minds in Eve.

I gank on my main. I'm also one of the best gankers in the game. AMA.

I agree with Bebop.

Yes, a billion is steep for the low end ganking lessons because you can experiment more cheaply.

I think a billion for the high end stuff is quite a good deal. How many times can you screw up an 8 tornado gank before it would have been cheaper to buy a tutorial from a subject matter expert?

I'm a cheap bastard, but if I wanted to gank freighters I would absolutely pay for this.

I read up on hyperdunking and I'm impressed.

Ganking isn't really my thing, but well done.


For naysayers... This man developed original gank technique that made game news... And you think it's worth less than the loot from a single freighter?

This class is what I would call a "great investment."

The potential return on investment for this class is literally one successful execution. I'm sure hyperdunking wasn't easy to develop.

If you have never tried stuff like this, it's not easy. I'm shocked people don't see value in this. Knowledge is the most valuable thing in the game.
Mo