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Mobile Tractor Unit

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Psycho Axium
PA Industries
#1 - 2015-08-14 13:17:41 UTC
I thought of an idea I would like to present to the general EVE public and CCP. Myself and a couple of other people run together quite a bit and use a Mobile Tractor Unit and I was thinking maybe an upgrade for the MTU would be to have an option to open up the MTU to fleet members or Corp members, just like the Fleet Hanger Bay on Capital ships. Another point I would like to put out there is the Mobile Depot, why can't my Corpies or Fleet members refit at a mobile depot that I have deployed. Thanks all for reading.
Resinball
Teh Hive Collective
#2 - 2015-08-14 13:34:33 UTC
i love this idea
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2015-08-14 14:36:23 UTC
fleet/corp mdepos might just be op, id love it but i doubt itl happen.

could care what they do with tractors though,
maby an abandon option or something that allows anyone to scoop it Twisted but its already a massive qol improvement over what it was before so i dont see a need.

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Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-14 15:44:52 UTC
I think they are already OP.
Just my opinion.

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Thunderdome
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#5 - 2015-08-14 16:05:46 UTC
People have wanted to share these things since they were first released but they are personal deployables and should be expected to stay that way.

If you want a ship that can act as a shareable mobile depot, and MTU, and has a fleet hangar you can share and can provide boosts for your fleet and can fit a massive tank, and likely a few other useful things that slipped my mind - bring an Orca.
Andii G-Love
The Tip Jar
#6 - 2015-08-14 16:38:10 UTC
I'm all for it, definite yes from me.

I don't want to have it scoop'able' though.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#7 - 2015-08-14 17:12:16 UTC
The option would be very pleasant but also makes an already low risk item even lower risk.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#8 - 2015-08-15 04:45:46 UTC
Any item you deploy should be accessible to your corp mates and anyone in your fleet, I know it is this way with jet cans which are the personal property of the pilot that jettisons them and I cannot see why it would not be this way for scooping the loot out of an MTU.
I have not used these since they first came out and I had no one else running with me back then so I never tested this.

If this is not the case then I am on the fence here and to be honest I do not care which way this goes.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-08-15 13:15:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tsukino Stareine
If the deploy time was raised to 10 minutes it might be fair.

Can you imagine a fleet that could just refit at will in the middle of combat? Too overpowered.

MTU accessible by others should be ok though.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#10 - 2015-08-15 14:12:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
If the deploy time was raised to 10 minutes it might be fair.

Can you imagine a fleet that could just refit at will in the middle of combat? Too overpowered.

MTU accessible by others should be ok though.

Not relevant since you cannot refit directly out of an MTU, they still have to bring a mobile depot or the appropriate ship to allow for refits so the requested changes would not affect this in any way.
Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#11 - 2015-08-18 01:46:17 UTC
Psycho Axium wrote:
Another point I would like to put out there is the Mobile Depot, why can't my Corpies or Fleet members refit at a mobile depot that I have deployed. Thanks all for reading.

I suspect if other players could access either the mobile tractor unit or mobile depot they could probably scoop it as well. Not that this is necessarily a problem, but maybe there are a few unintended consequences as a result.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2015-08-18 05:45:39 UTC
i remember actually asking this question at the feedback thread back when the new deployables where about to be introduced but i don't think i got an answer why you can't share it with others.

its always mind boggling for me why someone would add an item to a MMO but make it for single player use only :P


the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already. And i can't even think of a situation where this would be useful. Capitals are doing that to change tank or their role, but never the whole fleet (and they use the carrier fitting service, rarely depots).

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Arthur Aihaken
Kenshin Academia.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#13 - 2015-08-18 14:29:24 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already.

I guess on smaller ships the extra cargo capacity consumed by a mobile depot could be cost prohibitive in certain situations.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2015-08-18 16:44:40 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already. And i can't even think of a situation where this would be useful. Capitals are doing that to change tank or their role, but never the whole fleet (and they use the carrier fitting service, rarely depots).

It would be no worse than people doing the same thing with an orca.
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#15 - 2015-08-18 16:50:46 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already. And i can't even think of a situation where this would be useful. Capitals are doing that to change tank or their role, but never the whole fleet (and they use the carrier fitting service, rarely depots).

It would be no worse than people doing the same thing with an orca.


Except you can't have a fleet drop twenty Orcas at once costing a few million ISK.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#16 - 2015-08-18 17:02:57 UTC
Given that you can't shoot the orca anyway and that they only need one the situation would be identical to me.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#17 - 2015-08-18 17:34:37 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already. And i can't even think of a situation where this would be useful. Capitals are doing that to change tank or their role, but never the whole fleet (and they use the carrier fitting service, rarely depots).

It would be no worse than people doing the same thing with an orca.


Except you can't have a fleet drop twenty Orcas at once costing a few million ISK.


why do you need 20 of them?

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#18 - 2015-08-18 17:35:31 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already.

I guess on smaller ships the extra cargo capacity consumed by a mobile depot could be cost prohibitive in certain situations.


yes but when would you EVER need that. Esp on smaller ships as whole fleet

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2015-08-18 18:11:01 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
Chance Ravinne wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
the concern that a whole fleet could refit with a single depot is a little strange too IMO because you could just let every fleetmember drop one and do that already. And i can't even think of a situation where this would be useful. Capitals are doing that to change tank or their role, but never the whole fleet (and they use the carrier fitting service, rarely depots).

It would be no worse than people doing the same thing with an orca.


Except you can't have a fleet drop twenty Orcas at once costing a few million ISK.


why do you need 20 of them?

He seems to have gotten confused somewhere and . You only need to drop one orca for an entire fleet to be able to refit, but in order to be able to do it using depots you'd need to drop one for every fleet member, presumably he means that this difference is okay because orcas are expensive whereas depots arent.

I mean that's the counterpoint that would have made sense. I don't know where he got the thing about 20 orcas from.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-08-18 18:25:49 UTC
shooting one orca is a lot easier than shooting 20 depots (if they allowed fleet to refit)

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