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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#21 - 2015-08-14 16:24:59 UTC
There is already a citadel in eve, and entire region for that matter.

Citadel is more religious in nature then fantasy. And honestly... the POS is a piece of ****, and should of been removed the day after exodus. It was and is a clunky, ill conceived annoying as **** mechanic.

They new structures will be scale able (one hopes) and should have a the ability to easily add something new, instead of having a tangles mess of garbage that no one wants to touch.

Now tot he reference to SWG, the changes we are currently experiencing have not fully played out yet. We can;t really say, for certain, this is the same equivalent. Because i'm not seeing anyone start the game with a 200msp cap pilot.

EVE is still in, what is known as a rebuilding phase. The issue is, they phase got tighter in 2013.

It will get worse before it better, pcu will drop some more, its how this will work. I predicy by the end of 2016 eve will be rebounding in numbers. But things have to play out. Adjustments can now be made to some things, like jump fatigue, now that the new sov is out. More adjustments will come in a cap rework, and with the structures coming, adjustments will be made to null sec enviorment. Things like moon mining are going to die (either because a new structure will take over, or a new mechanic entirely will be in place)

Dogma/BITB will change links and other stuff when thats complete.

Thats the thing. A lot of stuff behind the scenes in changing. Some stuff seems slow, but thats becuase you have to build on top of other things. And you have to see if this one change will work in yoru plans or if you need to modify them.

Rebuilding takes time. But the fruits of there labor shoudl start to come at the end of next year.

With Gunjack and Valk coming, ccp should get enough income to push through. When the dust settles though, will eve remin? I believe yes is the answer. but we will see.

IMO 2017 will see eve on the rise and in a much better place.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#22 - 2015-08-14 16:25:03 UTC
Do I think that Eve, a fictional game about space submarines fighting other space submarines in a fluid universe using magic and phase shifting weapons which selectively pass through matter, has lost its realness and authenticity...





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#23 - 2015-08-14 16:35:12 UTC
It's not even a very good submarine simulator.
Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD.
Bullets Bombs and Blondes
#24 - 2015-08-14 17:17:18 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile

Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never. Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
flakeys
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-08-14 18:37:30 UTC
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile



Bloody hell , someone who get's it ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-08-14 18:40:40 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile



Bloody hell , someone who get's it ...


Have you ever played 0.0 eve?
Panthe3 Black
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-08-14 18:44:42 UTC
no eve is getting better for the most part
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2015-08-14 19:36:47 UTC
Panthe3 Black wrote:
no eve is getting better for the most part

you have no idea how hard im finding it to supress the urge to make a test joke right nowBig smileBlink

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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-08-14 20:25:50 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Panthe3 Black wrote:
no eve is getting better for the most part

you have no idea how hard im finding it to supress the urge to make a test joke right nowBig smileBlink


Give in to your anger.... Strike him down...
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2015-08-14 20:38:36 UTC
Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Panthe3 Black wrote:
no eve is getting better for the most part

you have no idea how hard im finding it to supress the urge to make a test joke right nowBig smileBlink


Give in to your anger.... Strike him down...

+1 for the starwars quote but I'm in to good of a humour to go "poo pooing" a fellow officer capsuleer .

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD.
Bullets Bombs and Blondes
#31 - 2015-08-14 22:31:06 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile



Bloody hell , someone who get's it ...


Have you ever played 0.0 eve?


lol, of course. And lowsec, HS, WH. Sadly, I have never tried the FW. Therefore, totally unqualified to comment on that form of game content. Big smile

Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never. Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#32 - 2015-08-15 00:58:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:

Have you ever played 0.0 eve?


lol, of course. And lowsec, HS, WH. Sadly, I have never tried the FW. Therefore, totally unqualified to comment on that form of game content. Big smile
Well it's kind of a stealthy thread to complain about SOV changes but the thread title really being EVE in general, unless EVE is only about SOV. It's a big part of it, SOV, and something CCP is finally trying to address. But in general the rest of the game is doing OK imo after years of work since the WiS debacle, then to the progression of reiteration from frigate changes and fixes on out to the eventual SOV revamp which has been coming for years. It's not about "realism" but player interaction. EVE was broken and nearly left for dead to pursue things that had nothing to do with internet spaceships. imo CCP has done a good job with EVE the past few years.

I'm in it for the money

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Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#33 - 2015-08-15 01:27:38 UTC
It's a video game...so no.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
flakeys
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-08-15 08:22:43 UTC
Scalding Holland wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile



Bloody hell , someone who get's it ...


Have you ever played 0.0 eve?



I have lived everywhere in eve except in wormholes , mostly in null-sec and low-sec.Both solo as in coalitions and this since 2003.My prefered playstyle is pvp.

That answers your question or do i not fall correct into your stereotypelist now?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Jacques d'Orleans
#35 - 2015-08-15 08:41:02 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Panthe3 Black wrote:
no eve is getting better for the most part

you have no idea how hard im finding it to supress the urge to make a test joke right nowBig smileBlink


Give in to your anger.... Strike him down...

+1 for the starwars quote but I'm in to good of a humour to go "poo pooing" a fellow officer capsuleer .


Never ignore a poo poo!

Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#36 - 2015-08-15 09:20:06 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Do I think that Eve, a fictional game about space submarines fighting other space submarines in a fluid universe using magic and phase shifting weapons which selectively pass through matter, has lost its realness and authenticity...


hey,,,,,EVE is real,,, GRRRRRRRRR ! lol Lol
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-08-15 10:51:13 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
This is why we can't have nice things...


But usually we had a cookie to make the things looks betterBlink

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Commander Spurty
#38 - 2015-08-16 01:58:14 UTC
For me, it became horribly small and lacked choices or individualism when alliances formed and jump bridges and Titan bridges appeared.

Too easy to get around.

This is a space game. Actually getting around is a huge part of the sim, but someone added ship teleporters and regions could be spanned in one mighty leap.

The landscape lost all of its richness. You can jump bypass the cool systems entirely. Shame they even exist any more really. Seeing systems with less than 100 jumps a day is a sign that system needs some love

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Scalding Holland
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-08-16 02:08:23 UTC
Commander Spurty wrote:
For me, it became horribly small and lacked choices or individualism when alliances formed and jump bridges and Titan bridges appeared.

Too easy to get around.

This is a space game. Actually getting around is a huge part of the sim, but someone added ship teleporters and regions could be spanned in one mighty leap.

The landscape lost all of its richness. You can jump bypass the cool systems entirely. Shame they even exist any more really. Seeing systems with less than 100 jumps a day is a sign that system needs some love


I remember a time when EVE didn't have warp to 0. Everything was warp to 15km and you had to slow boat!

Or when if you lived in Tenerifis or the deepest parts of EVE going to Jita would be a day trip that would take you hours. Kinda fun looking back but also annoying.

Or when alliances had to schedule freighter ops to get things to and from 0.0 and empire kek. That provided many hilarious kill mails when ops went horribly wrong. Alliances were crushed if they freighter ops were ambushed and rekt
Win Sui
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-08-17 04:21:34 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Max Fubarticus wrote:
Scalding Holland wrote:
Does anyone here feel as if EVE has lost its 'realness' and authenticity?

I've played eve on and off since 2006.


Well, therein lies the problem. Many dedicated Eve players play consistently, not occasionally, not once in a while. Dedicated players have learned to adapt to the changes over the years. No, there have been changes that I don't like or find rather lopsided. I also realize that Eve in not solely centered on me and my style of play. So I adapt. Your vision of reality may or may not be the same as others. As for the comparison players ( WoW, and what not ), an apples relationship to an orange ends at being a round fruit grown on trees, beyond that they are completely different things.

What is in the structures name or visual may be important to an Eve player who follows the strict lore of the game, or someone who is dedicated to role play. Personally, I don't care if CCP calls it a "cow patty on a stick", as long as it has purpose with the intent of enhancing game play across all sections of the player base ( as best as possible ).

Eve is my hobby, not my life. I will continue to play until such time as CCP pulls the plug on the whole thing, or until the great EMP event sends us all back to the stone age. regardless I will adaptBig smile



Bloody hell , someone who get's it ...


Have you ever played 0.0 eve?



I have lived everywhere in eve except in wormholes , mostly in null-sec and low-sec.Both solo as in coalitions and this since 2003.My prefered playstyle is pvp.

That answers your question or do i not fall correct into your stereotypelist now?


Notice how a lot of us post on characters that have actually done what we say? Notice how you don't? Notice a difference?
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