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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#41 - 2015-08-13 18:46:25 UTC
The most shocking part about all this is learning that Chribba does his own hauling.

There are all our dominion

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Iko Fumimasa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-08-13 19:10:09 UTC
Chribba wrote:
With a permit there would not be a kill, and you gotta admit it's more fun with a kill Smile

/c


While it is not disputable that it is more fun with a kill, with permits, you still get the gank from code.

"We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job." - Logical 101
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-08-13 20:57:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
PAPULA wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Chribba could have afforded a nice permit to keep that from happening. Big smile

You mean pay with euros via paypal so CODE. gets some money for permits ?
I think chribba is very smart guy, and will not pay any euros.


What does this even mean? Last I checked, a mining permit covers all highsec activity, and is purchased with ISK, for the low price of 10m.

Are you accusing CODE. of RMT? Because it looks like you are accusing CODE. of RMT.

EDIT: PAPULA is a creepy name. I dont know why, but its freakin creepy.

*shivers*

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#44 - 2015-08-13 21:39:16 UTC
Iko Fumimasa wrote:
Chribba wrote:
With a permit there would not be a kill, and you gotta admit it's more fun with a kill Smile

/c


While it is not disputable that it is more fun with a kill, with permits, you still get the gank from code.
If you get ganked by CODE. while in possession of a permit there's a 80+% chance that you weren't following the terms and conditions of the permit, thus making the permit invalid.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#45 - 2015-08-13 21:55:33 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Not only that, but he posted his own killmail on reddit before anyone else, to karma whore on his own death. The man takes "good sport" to a level unheard of in EVE.


And 3rd partied his own corpse sale after if I remember correctly...
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#46 - 2015-08-13 22:11:19 UTC
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
He has been ganked suprisingly little considering that he is well know in the community and everyone likes celebrity killmails.


Probably because he takes his losses like a grown-up who has voluntarily chosen to play a video game about spaceship violence.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#47 - 2015-08-13 22:18:36 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
one gank in a pile that happened today, no decent loot drop unless youre hard up for some ore.

CODE needs to gank the veldnaught then we have some serious rejoicing to do, otherwise....yawn.....



I recall the topic of ganking the Veldnaught came up around 2009 and someone ran the math and determined it would take something on the order of 250 gank battleships.


Cool, im in!

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Iko Fumimasa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2015-08-13 22:26:42 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:
Chribba wrote:
With a permit there would not be a kill, and you gotta admit it's more fun with a kill Smile

/c


While it is not disputable that it is more fun with a kill, with permits, you still get the gank from code.
If you get ganked by CODE. while in possession of a permit there's a 80+% chance that you weren't following the terms and conditions of the permit, thus making the permit invalid.



I was following the T&C of the permit, and was told so in comms. See what they do is gank you, and then tell you oh it was a mistake, but you have to cover the cost of the gank fleet in order to get any reimbursement. Its brilliant actually, they get you to buy a permit, and then extort you even more.

"We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job." - Logical 101
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#49 - 2015-08-13 22:37:48 UTC
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

I was following the T&C of the permit, and was told so in comms.
So you fall into the minority that get ganked despite following the T&C

Quote:
See what they do is gank you, and then tell you oh it was a mistake, but you have to cover the cost of the gank fleet in order to get any reimbursement. Its brilliant actually, they get you to buy a permit, and then extort you even more.
Welcome to bureaucracy, they're following the example set by civil servants the world over.

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Iko Fumimasa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-08-13 22:46:14 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

I was following the T&C of the permit, and was told so in comms.
So you fall into the minority that get ganked despite following the T&C

Quote:
See what they do is gank you, and then tell you oh it was a mistake, but you have to cover the cost of the gank fleet in order to get any reimbursement. Its brilliant actually, they get you to buy a permit, and then extort you even more.
Welcome to bureaucracy, they're following the example set by civil servants the world over.


Yes, i fell into the minority that the fabled knights chose to ignore the permit. And you are correct, they have supposed bureaucracy to get reimbursed for a mistake on their part, but isn't bureaucracy somewhat bot aspirant in and of itself? I found it quite ironic.

"We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job." - Logical 101
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#51 - 2015-08-13 22:55:01 UTC
Iko Fumimasa wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

I was following the T&C of the permit, and was told so in comms.
So you fall into the minority that get ganked despite following the T&C

Quote:
See what they do is gank you, and then tell you oh it was a mistake, but you have to cover the cost of the gank fleet in order to get any reimbursement. Its brilliant actually, they get you to buy a permit, and then extort you even more.
Welcome to bureaucracy, they're following the example set by civil servants the world over.


Yes, i fell into the minority that the fabled knights chose to ignore the permit. And you are correct, they have supposed bureaucracy to get reimbursed for a mistake on their part, but isn't bureaucracy somewhat bot aspirant in and of itself? I found it quite ironic.


It's a game. It doesn't require a functional bureaucracy to be fun. And trust me, everyone who ganked you had fun but you.

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Iko Fumimasa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2015-08-13 23:03:28 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

I was following the T&C of the permit, and was told so in comms.
So you fall into the minority that get ganked despite following the T&C

Quote:
See what they do is gank you, and then tell you oh it was a mistake, but you have to cover the cost of the gank fleet in order to get any reimbursement. Its brilliant actually, they get you to buy a permit, and then extort you even more.
Welcome to bureaucracy, they're following the example set by civil servants the world over.


Yes, i fell into the minority that the fabled knights chose to ignore the permit. And you are correct, they have supposed bureaucracy to get reimbursed for a mistake on their part, but isn't bureaucracy somewhat bot aspirant in and of itself? I found it quite ironic.


It's a game. It doesn't require a functional bureaucracy to be fun. And trust me, everyone who ganked you had fun but you.


Truthfully, the gank itself was amusing, what was not is that code always tells people if they buy a permit and follow it they're good to go, and any argument you have they request proof, well now we have that.

"We are pod pilots. We're the Joneses of outer space. So long as they make me decent sandwiches and stay the **** out of my face, my crew is doing their job." - Logical 101
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2015-08-14 02:14:56 UTC
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
First Rule of High Sec... you don't kill Chribba

Discuss


I thought that the first rule of high sec is that you're not invincible in high sec.
Lady Areola Fappington
#54 - 2015-08-14 03:43:15 UTC
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

Truthfully, the gank itself was amusing, what was not is that code always tells people if they buy a permit and follow it they're good to go, and any argument you have they request proof, well now we have that.



I'll break it down for you simple style. People who possess a permit and follow the Code don't get ganked. If you DO get ganked, that's prima facie evidence of violating the Code. This invalidates any Permit that may or may not be in existence.

This is why CODE can say they've never ganked a permit holder. By being ganked, the gankee has proven that they aren't following The Code, ergo the permit purchase was done in bad faith and invalid.


It's quite easy to understand.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Revis Owen
Krigmakt Elite
Safety.
#55 - 2015-08-14 04:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Revis Owen
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I recall the topic of ganking the Veldnaught came up around 2009 and someone ran the math and determined it would take something on the order of 250 gank battleships.


The New Order chooses the time and the place for elite PvP in highsec. The Veldnaught will go down if James 315 wills it so.

Edit to add (but, of course, it goes without saying): Unless Chribba has his permit and is following the Code.

Agent of the New Order http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html If you do not have a current Mining Permit, please contact me for issuance.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#56 - 2015-08-14 05:20:29 UTC
Revis Owen wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I recall the topic of ganking the Veldnaught came up around 2009 and someone ran the math and determined it would take something on the order of 250 gank battleships.


The New Order chooses the time and the place for elite PvP in highsec. The Veldnaught will go down if James 315 wills it so.

Edit to add (but, of course, it goes without saying): Unless Chribba has his permit and is following the Code.


I will fly whatever I am told to if this ever happens. Not because I dislike chribs, but because that gank would be EVE history.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2015-08-14 06:48:13 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Iko Fumimasa wrote:

Truthfully, the gank itself was amusing, what was not is that code always tells people if they buy a permit and follow it they're good to go, and any argument you have they request proof, well now we have that.



I'll break it down for you simple style. People who possess a permit and follow the Code don't get ganked. If you DO get ganked, that's prima facie evidence of violating the Code. This invalidates any Permit that may or may not be in existence.

This is why CODE can say they've never ganked a permit holder. By being ganked, the gankee has proven that they aren't following The Code, ergo the permit purchase was done in bad faith and invalid.


It's quite easy to understand.


And if they say otherwise, it's too see how foolish you are worth your isk.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Archeras Umangiar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#58 - 2015-08-14 12:11:25 UTC
Jim Its dead
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#59 - 2015-08-14 12:34:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Leto Thule wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I recall the topic of ganking the Veldnaught came up around 2009 and someone ran the math and determined it would take something on the order of 250 gank battleships.


The New Order chooses the time and the place for elite PvP in highsec. The Veldnaught will go down if James 315 wills it so.

Edit to add (but, of course, it goes without saying): Unless Chribba has his permit and is following the Code.


I will fly whatever I am told to if this ever happens. Not because I dislike chribs, but because that gank would be EVE history.
I'd give up my PvE playstyle for a day just to explode while making history, it's not often you get the chance to be part of an historical event and get a GF from the Veld God.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2015-08-14 13:33:53 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I'd give up my PvE playstyle for a day just to explode while making history, it's not often you get the chance to be part of an historical event and get a GF from the Veld God.


Maybe the whole thing is affecting him more than he is willing to admit.

Chribba wrote:
Correction, I've held sov twice Lol

(first time I actually had sov for about 3 days before PL dropped by and took out my TCU)

But it's really more fun with a kill right? I know it gets my heart racing at least


See?
He forgot to sign his post.
Chribba never forgets to sign his posts.
He must be shaken to the bones and utterly terrified. It's the only explanation.
Within strange eons, even veldspar gods may die....

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.