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is 500dps enough to kill this **** ishtar?
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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#101 - 2015-08-12 09:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Jethro Amar wrote:
I looked into again and found nothing. There isn't a ship that can solo that ishtar within one minute and be able to actually sneak into Deklein. Sure, there are battleships and such, but those will never get a chance to get there.

What's more important, if you manage to come up with a fit that actually works we will bait you till you give up. It's very easy to just put 2 people on standby ready to screw you over the moment you show on grid. All that is needed is a point on the ishtar and 2 guys waiting in the station. If you don't want to lose multiple ships this way you have to go Sa Matra way and fly around in 5 inties. That is a whole different level of autism and I don't wish that on anyone though.


the triple neut stratios could, however its not a safe traveling option jumping back and forth through the gates, as well as the baits make loosing that ship often not a viable option either... I'm back to shooting down their haulers, at the end its the perfect thing to do for my cause, because it shows goonswarm how fragile they are and thats what they hate the most


Triple nuet Stratios won't put out enough damage to kill the Ishtar before the rats & drones kill you. I'm pretty sure this fit was designed to ignore solo hunters so people can continue ratting AFK & not really care about things.


you are not up to date https://zkillboard.com/character/92106351/ stunt flores and many others screw your ishtars with the neut stratios, you are losing horrible amounts of isk this summer.. I just feel pity for you guys, thats why I show mercy and do not put another stratios monster on your ratters...

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Randy McSoggybotto
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#102 - 2015-08-12 13:19:00 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Jethro Amar wrote:
I looked into again and found nothing. There isn't a ship that can solo that ishtar within one minute and be able to actually sneak into Deklein. Sure, there are battleships and such, but those will never get a chance to get there.

What's more important, if you manage to come up with a fit that actually works we will bait you till you give up. It's very easy to just put 2 people on standby ready to screw you over the moment you show on grid. All that is needed is a point on the ishtar and 2 guys waiting in the station. If you don't want to lose multiple ships this way you have to go Sa Matra way and fly around in 5 inties. That is a whole different level of autism and I don't wish that on anyone though.


the triple neut stratios could, however its not a safe traveling option jumping back and forth through the gates, as well as the baits make loosing that ship often not a viable option either... I'm back to shooting down their haulers, at the end its the perfect thing to do for my cause, because it shows goonswarm how fragile they are and thats what they hate the most


Triple nuet Stratios won't put out enough damage to kill the Ishtar before the rats & drones kill you. I'm pretty sure this fit was designed to ignore solo hunters so people can continue ratting AFK & not really care about things.


you are not up to date https://zkillboard.com/character/92106351/ stunt flores and many others screw your ishtars with the neut stratios, you are losing horrible amounts of isk this summer.. I just feel pity for you guys, thats why I show mercy and do not put another stratios monster on your ratters...


Please don't send another stratios into deklein,what will I do with all these empty sites
Corail Amber
Losing All Hope Was Freedom
#103 - 2015-08-12 18:25:38 UTC
Might be a dumb idea but ;

According to Pyfa if you shoot at this specific Isthar fit with explosive damage he gets 5245 shield effective hp.

Still according to Pyfa a full gank Loki fit with 720mm arties has about 4800 volley damage, with a rate of fire of 9.62 seconds.

His shield booster cycles every 3 seconds so theorically he can only boost a max amount of 3 cycles reping 370 hp each before you volley him again.

So THEORICALLY if you get perfect hits everytime with your 720mm arties you should be able to make him bleed armor and structure between each volley. He has 10% explosive resists in armor and 0% explosive resist in structure so you can go past his shield with each volley you'll take him down pretty quickly.

That is of course all theorical and i'm not even sure it would work.

Or you can just fly a stratios and stop being a pussy about having no nullifier. Covops cloak is enough to go through most gatecamps 99% of the time.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#104 - 2015-08-13 06:59:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Corail Amber wrote:
Might be a dumb idea but ;

According to Pyfa if you shoot at this specific Isthar fit with explosive damage he gets 5245 shield effective hp.

Still according to Pyfa a full gank Loki fit with 720mm arties has about 4800 volley damage, with a rate of fire of 9.62 seconds.

His shield booster cycles every 3 seconds so theorically he can only boost a max amount of 3 cycles reping 370 hp each before you volley him again.

So THEORICALLY if you get perfect hits everytime with your 720mm arties you should be able to make him bleed armor and structure between each volley. He has 10% explosive resists in armor and 0% explosive resist in structure so you can go past his shield with each volley you'll take him down pretty quickly.

That is of course all theorical and i'm not even sure it would work.

Or you can just fly a stratios and stop being a pussy about having no nullifier. Covops cloak is enough to go through most gatecamps 99% of the time.




I thought about something simular, a triple volley from 15k with a bomber, the electron bomb would hit nearly the same time as the first torp volley, as I'm going into his direction the second torp volley would come and directly hit him after that as I'm closer... I did some calculations but I think I could volley 20.000dps within those 3 seconds, and that might instakill him directly if I add 3 target painters to my ship...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#105 - 2015-08-21 12:46:15 UTC
Randy McSoggybotto wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Jethro Amar wrote:
I looked into again and found nothing. There isn't a ship that can solo that ishtar within one minute and be able to actually sneak into Deklein. Sure, there are battleships and such, but those will never get a chance to get there.

What's more important, if you manage to come up with a fit that actually works we will bait you till you give up. It's very easy to just put 2 people on standby ready to screw you over the moment you show on grid. All that is needed is a point on the ishtar and 2 guys waiting in the station. If you don't want to lose multiple ships this way you have to go Sa Matra way and fly around in 5 inties. That is a whole different level of autism and I don't wish that on anyone though.


the triple neut stratios could, however its not a safe traveling option jumping back and forth through the gates, as well as the baits make loosing that ship often not a viable option either... I'm back to shooting down their haulers, at the end its the perfect thing to do for my cause, because it shows goonswarm how fragile they are and thats what they hate the most


Triple nuet Stratios won't put out enough damage to kill the Ishtar before the rats & drones kill you. I'm pretty sure this fit was designed to ignore solo hunters so people can continue ratting AFK & not really care about things.


you are not up to date https://zkillboard.com/character/92106351/ stunt flores and many others screw your ishtars with the neut stratios, you are losing horrible amounts of isk this summer.. I just feel pity for you guys, thats why I show mercy and do not put another stratios monster on your ratters...


Please don't send another stratios into deklein,what will I do with all these empty sites


https://youtu.be/fKzcwWLA1Nw

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#106 - 2015-09-03 15:30:16 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
simular




Credibility: gone.



Perhaps once you're a famous in-game thespian you can make the Ishtar explode with the power of your celebrity endorsements.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#107 - 2015-09-03 16:47:39 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
simular




Credibility: gone.



Perhaps once you're a famous in-game thespian you can make the Ishtar explode with the power of your celebrity endorsements.


you do not seem to understand the topic of this thread

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm