EVE New Citizens Q&A

I've spent years coming to this forum offering advice and encouragement to players with a genuine desire to get better at Eve. This is not one of those cases. This is just another rant about how after a couple days of playing Eve, someone with an over-inflated sense of entitlement has decided that he knows how to 'fix' Eve....fix rules that have existed the entire time Eve has been in existence.

Nonsense like 'open PvP is okay....but' should be called out and mocked. Basically saying- 'the rules everyone has played by for 12 years are fine...as long as they don't apply to me'. I have no tolerance for that. We all came to the same game, with the same rules. If you don't like those rules then don't play the game.

It's not an insult to suggest this isn't the game for some people. If you can't survive a trial account without taking to the forums soaking in tears, then clearly Eve is the wrong choice of games. Thats why they offer a trial account. It's only going to get worse once you have something valuable to lose. It's not my fault if that honest appraisal hurts some gamer's ego too much to admit that maybe another game is more your style than Eve is. Nor is it the responsibility of the devs to alter a game from it's very core mechanics simply because some people cannot go a couple days without crying like a school girl with a skinned knee over the same mechanics that tens of thousands of other players managed to survive for over a decade. Eve is easier now than it ever has been...and still it's not enough dumbing down and hand holding for some.

Being extorted, scammed, or blown up is not unique to any one player- yet tens of thousands of us manage to play Eve without having to cry to the devs when someone actually engages in multiplayer online gaming..in a multiplayer online game. Don't cry when someone role plays, in a role playing game. Even if the role they choose is 'bad guy'.

What is insulting is the notion that difficulty and adversity is a 'problem' with Eve. For many players it is exactly this concept that attracted us to Eve in the first place. For many of the longest term and most dedicated players- Eve is a destination. It's where we came to when we got tired of swimming in the shallow end of gaming with kiddie games like WoW. If that's the type of game you want- there are lots out there to choose from. But there is only one game like Eve Online. If you don't like the game that Eve is...fine... but don't assume that your inability to handle the rules and mechanics is universal. Way too many of us managed to survive and prosper under those same (or harsher) rules for over a decade.
It's not the game...it's YOU.

he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.

Doesn't sound like he was in a rookie system to me, he says he was in an 0.8 system.

Didn't know there were any 0.8 career systems.

Seems to me nothing actually happened to the op other than that message which obviously when the op thought about it and its implications he decided he didn't like the game as it was or at least the dark side of the game. Or did I miss something?


Edit:

So I did miss something.

Clellinon 0.8 system
Akiainavas 0.7 system
Both with career agents.

That surprises me if they originally started out that way.

Those instincts.

Well that's a huge nono to do that in a rookie spawn system or a career location...

Amarr Empire:
(Conoban System - Hedion University) 0.905248800027831
(Deepari System - Imperial Academy) 0.914172634878232
(Pasha System - Royal Amarr Institute) 0.914349195494101

Caldari State:
(Akiainavas System - School of Applied Knowledge) 0.745254943318089
(Jouvulen System - Science and Trade Institute) 0.889762851761055
(Uitra System - State War Academy) 0.924096002964332

Gallente Federation:
(Clellinon System - Center for Advanced Studies) 0.848465929327211
(Couster System - Federal Navy Academy) 0.902460888451989
(Trossere System - University of Caille) 0.914410272591836

Minmatar Republic:
(Embod System - Pator Tech School) 0.960749400265842
(Hadaugago System - Republic Military School) 0.948771964644125
(Malukker System - Republic University) 0.988011674540224

Has anyone checked killmail to see if this has actually happened?

EDIT:

Nice link.

I agree with Webvan here. I came from WoW and other games like. I stuck with Eve because it was the only game that was different than everything. I feel like I understand the "bad habits" that I feel games like that program us into. I fee like I understand them because I had a hard time letting go of them so my stubbornness caused me to experience the downside of them long after anyone with half a brain would have learned his or her lesson.

Because of that I do my best to help people that I see coming to this game with the same misconceptions that I had. I also try to identify the ones that I don't think will get past it and save them the trouble.

Am I trying to make the OP go away? No I don't believe I am. I feel like I am just letting him know that if he is looking for CCP to change Eve and make it a "fair" game and put soft fluffy pads on everything so that you don't hurt yourself then he is not going to win that fight and honestly would be better off playing a different game because he is not CCP's target audience.

Also if CCP were to listen to him Eve would become just like every other WoW clone out there and there would be nowhere left for me to go. If the OP wants Eve to play like WoW then maybe he should just go play WoW or the thousand other games that are just like it. I'm not trying to chase him off just be honest.

Shifted on my lazy butt and did some checking. It's not CODE. (as some implied originally based on "code bandit") It's just a player named Codebandit with another corp/alliance. This didn't happen in the system the OP said here, happened in Luse (twice 30m apart) to a character named Cuzin Boneless not Cusin Boneless. OP, this isn't your character that got ganked, you dudn't even know how to spell it's name ...nor know the correct system? erm...

edit: and I'm not saying he's a troll or not, just that his story doesn't fully check out. Easy mistake by a newbie, or intended oversight by a troll. But where it happens is important in this game, regardless if the person attacked was a newbie or not. It's also to note in case anyone got the impression, this did not happen to the OP. Nor was CODE involved. Nor happened in a protected system.

Also note, OP, the player got right back up and went out again, to the same place. You can search his name on google to zkillboard. To go right back again, seems the player really didn't have any serious issue with it.

Easy mistake to make with the 'S' and the 'Z', but the system that's another story.

OP is just trying to cause trouble (troll) by the sound of it and either trying to put people off of the game or get the game changed or both. Why else would there also be a thread on Steam.

They can put a little "RS" graphic at the top-left when you enter a rookie system. When you hover over it with your mouse a message appears concisely explaining the restrictions. Taking it one step further by default your safety in these systems could behave as if it's green (even if it's set otherwise). You would have to manually enable "aggression" in Rookie Systems similar to how you have to change your safety to red to begin with. Upon doing so it presents a message concisely explaining the restrictions and what the "RS" means at the top-left.