Missions & Complexes

They lied. The DD burner can't be soloed with 100% certainty.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. The OTHER fits people linked actually work. Your fit obviously did not.

There's a lot more players in-game who do missions and don't visit these forums compared to the amount of players in-game who do missions and visit these forums.

The Agent mission briefing hasn't been changed since the missions were first added to the game yet the rat stats have been manipulated and buffed by CCP at least once if not more. That alone intentionally misleads players into losing their ships, maybe on purpose.

In fact, I remember CCP proudly posting a thread bragging about the amount of player ships destroyed by Burner Rats. Obviously over time those stats have now changed due to two main reasons :

1 - Players in-game who visit these forums are now using bling ship fits that have been posted as proven to work.
2 - Players in-game who don't visit these forums are now just declining those missions whenever offered.

Bottom line - CCP has a long history of saying one thing and doing another thing. In other words - lying.

End of discussion.



DMC

OK, so it was a Dev Blog thread posted 09-17-2014.

And .................



DMC

would be interesting to see stats on how many accounts visit the forums, vs how many post. Nearly every mmo I've played has numerous out of game resources, including the forums. My first MMO was so poorly supported and documented (ie, needed to find the ip to the server on the forums) that I have considered the forums as essential reading for MMOs ever since. But I do agree there are many, many players who do not visit the forums. Wonder how much they use other out of game resources?

there have been a few small tweaks to the burner AI. I think most of it is more related to how often they shoot drones than anything else. I've been running them pretty much since they came out and I haven't noticed any major changes. There is a note in the burner thread about the burner daredevil getting a tank buff, and I didn't even notice for a few months. Here is a link to my post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5630846#post5630846 the one thing I notice is I usually end the mission with 18 rounds instead of 20. The other change I've noticed is mostly drop based.

some of the bling is needed, some is not. I think fozzie said he had a t2 fit ship for each of the original burners but this was back during testing and I'm not sure how accurate it is at this point, but I mostly believe it. Most of the bling is to use a faction ship that can complete the mission faster, or to increase your margin of error. a t2 hardener overloaded gives more resist than an x-type. and a deadspace hardener with heat usually means you don't have to think about over heating your rep (if you even have to heat the hardener). an a-type small rep is pretty cheap, although they have been a bit volatile spiking each time a t3d comes out. In a few cases the bling feels much more needed, like a long web for the burner sansha, or burner daredevil. that said you could probably get by that with links, but that is adding an even bigger barrier to entry imo.

The burner stats are based on bling fit ships with links and implants. Any amount of "OP/cheating/whatever you want to call it" has to do with the fact they are NPCs that can't change their fits or behaviors where players can do both. I see a player daredevil in a plex I don't know if it is blaster or rail fit, MWD or AB? armor or hull tanked? wouldn't a 500dps blaster burner be fun? Oh yea, and most player fits don't have to fit a scram to stop the burner from warping off. I feel that the slight bump in ability, for instance the burner daredevil having improved tracking, and some extra tank, doesn't really seem to break anything. Given the current npc and player rules it seems both get a freebie slot. if the burner NPCs were strictly limited to player achievable stats they would be too easy given they don't have the AI to adjust to the situation.

all you really need to know. I dare you to fight this thing, it will probably kill you Enjoy!

as for the solo bit, I don't ever remember seeing that part, if anything they were designed to be solo content, however as new content, and newer player content bringing a friend is a decent idea. this quote is from before the burners ever hit TQ


taken from: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4942073#post4942073

oh and lulz

unfortunately this is also a nerf to missile damage, but meh missiles

Where in the Agent briefing I posted above does it say "player ship"? No where, because it doesn't. It says he is flying a Daredevil and provides what he may have fitted. It doesn't say it is the same exact Daredevil we buy on the market. You assume that.

if it were a player daredevil it would just warp off from your lol hawk.

and given it is so "completely unique," maybe that was an "indication" you should have done some research

It was intended for rage rockets to hit the target, but I swapped to CN rockets because rage weren't doing hardly any damage even with the painter and the MGE.

You can quite easy overcome burner frigates.
People are dropping tons of alts on them .
For example when you use 4 T2 fitted T1 ( yes T1 frigates) you can kill many burner rats in less than 10 seconds.
You can simply alpha them from field.


Burner missions where designed for 1 vs 1 , but are totally broken when you bring alts.

My record is killing a burner in alpha shoot ( so no need for 3 cycles) as i max damage from all alts.