Intergalactic Summit

Without detracting from the importance of this discussion, I would like to leave the arguments about legality and rights for a moment and look at Raish's ship (one of the few factual items from this incident).

He had fitted multiple scanning modules (everything but a Survey scanner) in addition to the Entosis II module. He also had a Slave implant set.

I am aware that the Entosis link has been tested on just about everything in New Eden, but I wonder if there is some combination of scanning gear that when coupled with the Entosis module yields more or different information?

Is there a new scanning protocol that the SoCT ship was using?

Is that technique available to all now?

The description of the Entosis module describes its "mysterious" purpose as providing a "more efficient mind-machine" interface of which "practical applications are unclear".

Was Raish scanning, not just Titan, but the Empress herself and is that why she reacted the way she did?

As Dr. Watson, or was it Sherlock Homes, says "Is new skullduggery afoot?"

Inquiring minds want to know!

Completely different how? I've used one. It looked the same to me.

With respect, Cardinal, there's the third option that's come up a few times:

There was something on the titan that isn't normally there which, like TCUs, IHUBs, and stations, can be scanned with an entosis link. (I've already fitted one to my own Gnosis to see if there's a previously-unknown synergy between the two pieces of tech, by the way. There isn't.)

Nobody else tried, so we don't know.

Nor am I 'crying' about it. I'm simply pointing out that when he said there are '2 options', he's missed one.

Probably. Deniable assets, the difference between 'pirate' and 'privateer' yadda yadda...

Ms Farel

Unlike the Serpentis—which has no other interest than wealth and corrupting the innocent—the SoCT educates parts of Jove. Judging from the information spread in circles close to CONCORD, it seems that still a huge part of those selected by the SoCT for education are indeed Jove.

I do not remember your actual involvement with the SoCT in detail, but didn’t you eschew contact with others affiliated to the organisation? Even so that you named your corporation kitzless? Did it ever occur to you that this might be one of the reasons why you cannot see what the whole cluster seems to know?

Whatever it is that makes you act so wrong-headed, you shall not allow it to divide your loyalty between the chosen people of God and a bunch of manipulative and shadowy “philosophers.”

Be warned. And move on.
Odelya d’Hanguest, Begum etc. pp.

Respectfully, you'd be surprised by who we have ties to, much less the pirate organizations out here. Besides, it might be tinfoil. Maybe I'm making all of this up. Maybe all of the speculation is misdirection. Maybe all of the speculation is supposed to look like misdirection, so it'll be discounted.

grr gons. hat gons.

Well then, I am sorry you take it that way.

If I can clarify further, you are right that 300 centuries is not much compared to current lifespans and the usual Amarr timeframe. In comparison to scientific ventures and student promotions however, it is consequential. More than a century for a school, is many years.

In any case, you carefully evaded my main argument that the Jove have disappeared. The SoCT however, still stands. It does not necessarily proves anything, but it seriously hints to their independent state, especially since I do not see any Jove in their organization. If you can point me to a single current SoCT jovian member, I would be glad to hear about it (and yes, Veniel is a renegade, and probably dead or vanished by now).

The problem, is that your assumptions are made purely out of prejudices with absolutely no solid proof to back them up, and then you call mine 'unsound' and 'utterly absurd'. That alone, however, does not make them so... The burden of proof lies at the feet of the accusation.

Maybe the SoCT still retain links with the Jove, and maybe not. Beyond simple curiosity however, it does not concern me. Confusing the form with the content is the worst mistake that can be made on any subject.

Also, respectfully, being an infidel does not equate being wrong by necessity. That in itself, is a logical fallacy. But again, I am (or was) ready to discuss on the subject of why Serum of Truth is a perfect illustration of the quintessential quest for knowledge - knowledge of the Divine, God - that paves the way for humanity and the Faithful since the very beginning. You assumed as a (prejudiced) axiom that everything that is not Scripture is therefore wrong or misguided by necessity however, and I would urge you to reconsider your theological position on the matter, as that, is actually unsound.

Also no, the 'verbiage of Jovian fools' as you say, certainly does not equate with Scripture. Are you trying to put weird concepts into my mouth ?

I think you are looking for witches, lady d'Hanguest.

It seems to me that you did not really want to hear in the first place, but to find and cause conflict. I do not deem it healthy to continue further in that state of mind.



NB : while I grant to everybody that the title of this thread is maybe not the most appropriate (lack of detachment, again), you only seem to see it working in one way. You assumed straight away that I was on the side of the SoCT. Why is that so... ? That question-title goes both ways...


NB2: This message does only represent the position of its beholder.