Market Discussions

You only need to make about 34m per day to plex your account.

With 4b isk you should be able to easly make 50 - 150m isk per day with very passive trading in my experience, if you do it active you can make more, also as your capital grows you will earn more obviously.

I find it better to use one character for trading whle I do pvp and other stuff on another char, but you can ofc do it all on one char, but I can see it being annoying to always have to return to jita or amarr or whatever hub you trade in.

Not to hijack the thread, but I am looking to do the same.

I have 7 bil available, although I was considering starting with just 2bil, and see how that goes.

Any advice on items/item groups/item values I should be focusing on? Its rather daunting looking at the thousands of available items to trade!

That would be my next hurdle. Wouldn't be sure whether to trade high volume items and where to sell items. What quantity of each item to get and how to figure out the margins on each item in a less time consuming manner to see which are worth trading.

I had a spreadsheet once on some common T2 items in Nita which told me the profit margins based off some API data or something. Unfortunately I lost it and can't find the YouTube video guide I used to make the thing.

With using 4b capital and doing trading as your focus (preferably station trading imo) it would be easy to clear a plex a month.

I would aim for 4-8b a month if you trade with the hours you stated assuming normal learning curve for beginning traders. I would recommend heading to Jita, find a few items you think are good and put up a bunch of different buy orders of about 1b worth. Then start doing some heavy researching while those orders sit. The research should provide insight into new items and techniques. Apply new info to put up new and better orders. Rinse and repeat until you are fully vested into the market. I would definitely look into increasing your Corp and faction standings prior to any heavy station trading.

Good luck!

I found that in the AUTZ if your going to actively trade with 0.1 isking you need to focus on very high volume items.
It was actually better to trade smaller volumes of faction items between stations, but then you need to haul.

If your just looking to plex - once you have finished the training for market skills passive (low effort) income can come from:

• PI
Blueprints - research/copying/invention
Agents in the form of research agents

These all take a couple of weeks training but setting aside a couple of months to generate free plex can be worth if RL $ is limited

This is a buzzword that needs to die. Yes, there are means of making isk that are not hugely game-time intensive, but many/most of them are reliant on a good deal of out-of-game number crunching, keeping up with patch notes, keeping up with the various metas that will impact markets, etc. The only true passive income stream is being the figurehead of a relatively successful corp, letting directors do all the work, and siphonin isk out of the corp slush fund. Even that requires a good deal of up-front time investment.



You have more than enough seed capital to start with. Lacking skills, especially accounting, broker relations, and margin trading, will slow you down, so will not having high standings with faction/corp of the stations you work in, but none of those is a solid barrier to entry. It just means you will have to spend more time researching to find acceptable margins.

Wealthy traders with high standings still work to turn a decent profit, but they have the leeway to get lazy and invest a bit in whatever with the knowledge that they're blanketing the market well enough that losses will be offset or minimized. You have to stay on the ball and not be too lazy.

tl;dr: It's doable, but if you're expecting passive passive income ala old school research agents you're in for a shock.

Make the ISK you make while playing your ISK and not drop it into the PLEX pot. Buy some shiny stuff.

You clearly know more than me about incursions. Ask questions about that.

You know incursion pilots create CONCORD LP store items. You know what they destroy (deadspace modules, pirate battleships, ammunition).

What you know that I don't is *where and when* they have these excess items and *where and when* they want them.

That's a trade opportunity for you. One that I can't compete with you in.