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an open letter to jamyl sarum
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Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2015-08-08 15:07:08 UTC

We see Matar Ronin is working through his five stages of denial. He has gone from Rage and Anger to now Bargaining with the Empress. Depression and Acceptance can't be far behind, hm?

\J/

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Arrendis
TK Corp
#62 - 2015-08-08 17:30:57 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

We see Matar Ronin is working through his five stages of denial. He has gone from Rage and Anger to now Bargaining with the Empress. Depression and Acceptance can't be far behind, hm?



Personally, I think he's just buttering her up so he can maybe buy her a drink, then offer to show her some of his bulkhead-scultpure back on his carri-.... wait, no, that's me angling to seduce her, not him. Nevermind!
Matar Ronin
#63 - 2015-08-08 23:59:07 UTC
Goldfinch wrote:

We see Matar Ronin is working through his five stages of denial. He has gone from Rage and Anger to now Bargaining with the Empress. Depression and Acceptance can't be far behind, hm?

It is sad to see even an opponent capsuleer slowly slide into the "wet grave", losing her mind bit by bit is such an awful way to go.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#64 - 2015-08-09 00:39:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Arrendis
Wait, are you saying you wouldn't seduce the Empress if you could? Cuz you know, sure, she's starting to get a little up there, but she's still a babe. And you know, we're an intense, passionate, primal people...
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#65 - 2015-08-09 00:50:18 UTC
Don't think he's interested in reanimated corpses...
Arrendis
TK Corp
#66 - 2015-08-09 01:03:23 UTC
Eh, she's an egger, she's no more a zombie than the rest of us.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#67 - 2015-08-09 01:19:36 UTC
Can't deny that I have a thing for reducing True Amarrian ladies into puddles of overwhelmed hormones and endorphins. There's something very satisfying about teaching them about... freedoms and bonds.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#68 - 2015-08-10 17:22:43 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

...Anyone who knows the State well knows that our preferred position is to trade with all and be allied with none. We hate it when our friends drag us into wars and foreign adventures, but so long as the Republic remains a staunch ally of the Federation and the Federation remains bitterly against the idea of there being a Caldari State, we really have no choice.

The Federation does not advocate for the destruction of the State. They are against having an hostile, militarized planet controlled by the State in the middle of their sovereign high sec territory, however.

As for trying to talk sense to any of the slaver zealots you'd all be better served by saving your breath (and your ammunition) and dealing with them in the same way the Jove dealt with them. The slavers understand that, not rational discourse or diplomacy.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#69 - 2015-08-10 17:29:53 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:


As for trying to talk sense to any of the slaver zealots you'd all be better served by saving your breath (and your ammunition) and dealing with them in the same way the Jove dealt with them. The slavers understand that, not rational discourse or diplomacy.


The Aidonis people would disagree with you there.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#70 - 2015-08-10 19:27:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Anabella Rella wrote:
As for trying to talk sense to any of the slaver zealots you'd all be better served by saving your breath (and your ammunition) and dealing with them in the same way the Jove dealt with them. The slavers understand that, not rational discourse or diplomacy.


Which nation has broken peace treaties, refused diplomacy, and thrown the cluster to war in the last three decades?

Oh, that's right. The Republic.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#71 - 2015-08-10 19:35:42 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
The Federation does not advocate for the destruction of the State. They are against having an hostile, militarized planet controlled by the State in the middle of their sovereign high sec territory, however.


Oh, you mean the Caldari homeworld?

They could always just give the whole system to the Caldari people who live there. Honestly, starving an entire planet? What was the Federation thinking??

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As for trying to talk sense to any of the slaver zealots you'd all be better served by saving your breath (and your ammunition) and dealing with them in the same way the Jove dealt with them. The slavers understand that, not rational discourse or diplomacy.


The understand rational discourse quite well. And I'm personally optimistic that the Empress will enjoy the copy of the interactive novel Holder: Brutor I sent her. Very... thought-provoking.
Shaddam Daphiti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2015-08-10 19:54:12 UTC
I try to avoid politics, it is a den of prideful and boastful souls...

As to abolition...

That day is coming as Her Holiness has said. However, it is not today.
It is the just and righteous place of a Holder to guide and support those fallen furthest, for those fallen suffer the most.

Would you take your hand from a child in the midst of it's pain in the name of "freedom"?

That day is coming, but it is not today.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#73 - 2015-08-10 20:31:01 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
The Federation does not advocate for the destruction of the State. They are against having an hostile, militarized planet controlled by the State in the middle of their sovereign high sec territory, however.


Oh, you mean the Caldari homeworld?

They could always just give the whole system to the Caldari people who live there. Honestly, starving an entire planet? What was the Federation thinking??

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Part of the issue here is that the Luminaire system not only contains the Caldari Homeworld, but also the Gallente Homeworld. Yes, we stared out in the same system on two different planets. Makes it a bit more complicated.

The current demilitarized zone agreement (with Mordu's Legion guarding the planet) is a nice compromis.

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#74 - 2015-08-10 20:47:43 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
As for trying to talk sense to any of the slaver zealots you'd all be better served by saving your breath (and your ammunition) and dealing with them in the same way the Jove dealt with them. The slavers understand that, not rational discourse or diplomacy.


Which nation has broken peace treaties, refused diplomacy, and thrown the cluster to war in the last three decades?

Oh, that's right. The Republic.


Yeah and who invaded a peaceful people's home worlds, kidnapped tens of millions, killed millions of others and held an entire culture and civilization hostage for a thousand years so that the the Elders found it necessary to do what they did?

Oh, that's right, the Amarr.

See what I did there, slaver sycophant?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#75 - 2015-08-10 21:35:03 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Part of the issue here is that the Luminaire system not only contains the Caldari Homeworld, but also the Gallente Homeworld. Yes, we stared out in the same system on two different planets. Makes it a bit more complicated.


Oh, I know. But I'd personally have to say genocide voids your claim to the system.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#76 - 2015-08-10 21:41:00 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Yeah and who invaded a peaceful people's home worlds, kidnapped tens of millions, killed millions of others and held an entire culture and civilization hostage for a thousand years so that the the Elders found it necessary to do what they did?

Oh, that's right, the Amarr.

See what I did there, slaver sycophant?


Yes, I see that what you did was, as usual, attempt to divert the conversation onto a completely different point.

You, previously, brought up willingness to engage in 'rational discourse and diplomacy'. No diplomatic relations existed during the first war. We declared war on a foreign nation with which we had no diplomatic relations and conquered it.

But diplomatic relations did exist 7 years ago. You don't get to say that we don't understand rational discourse and diplomacy, when the only ones who broke a century of rational discourse and diplomacy was you, not us.
Cain Aloga
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#77 - 2015-08-11 03:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Cain Aloga
Samira Kernher wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Yeah and who invaded a peaceful people's home worlds, kidnapped tens of millions, killed millions of others and held an entire culture and civilization hostage for a thousand years so that the the Elders found it necessary to do what they did?

Oh, that's right, the Amarr.

See what I did there, slaver sycophant?


Yes, I see that what you did was, as usual, attempt to divert the conversation onto a completely different point.

You, previously, brought up willingness to engage in 'rational discourse and diplomacy'. No diplomatic relations existed during the first war. We declared war on a foreign nation with which we had no diplomatic relations and conquered it.

But diplomatic relations did exist 7 years ago. You don't get to say that we don't understand rational discourse and diplomacy, when the only ones who broke a century of rational discourse and diplomacy was you, not us.



I do not recall a single Republic navy ship engaging your golden fleets under Republic orders. Sure we were cheering them on, but the Republic was not responsible for the attacks. The Elder fleet was made up primarily by the Thukker Tribe, who at the time were not members of our nation. Should we begin blaming all blood raider activity on the Amarr? After all, they share your religion and culture.

Edit: I also recall a certain Amarr Royal Heir jumping a fleet into Federation Space.

While our warriors fight for our people's freedom, we in turn should fight for our people's prosperity.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#78 - 2015-08-11 05:26:22 UTC
Thats odd, because I could swear I saw a healthy mix of Republic vessels among the Elder Fleet during the invasion..

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb
Matar Ronin
#79 - 2015-08-11 05:32:50 UTC
Simon Louvaki wrote:
Thats odd, because I could swear I saw a healthy mix of Republic vessels among the Elder Fleet during the invasion..
Rogue Commanders who violated orders and left the Republic Fleet command structure to participate. They are now ex-Commanders.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#80 - 2015-08-11 06:09:39 UTC
I'm sure you can understand why there is a great deal of skepticism revolving around the Republic's culpability in the Elder War Mr. Ronin. So many Republic servicemen and commanders made the ultimate sacrifice that day.

-- "The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt; Thus fools go forth to spread false word." - The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21

--"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." - Hyasyoda Proverb