These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Crime & Punishment

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
First pagePrevious page8910
 

Official announcement regarding Anti-Ganker "White Knights".

First post
Author
Black Pedro
Mine.
#181 - 2015-08-10 12:04:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:
Black Pedro wrote:
*talk*


I think I told you in some other thread that I'm not gonna try discussing something with you. So I'm not :).

I'll take your non-denial as confirmation that my summary is correct.

Why are the small number of forum dwellers that I would not like to have a beer with almost all associated with anti-ganking in some way? It just must be that the concept holds some attraction for a certain type of person whose sense of space justice blinds them to supporting basic levels of human decency in this video game. Or perhaps it is the aura of spite and bitterness that just makes it seem like they aren't any fun.

This is all really off-topic anyway. What is the topic? AG is ineffectual?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#182 - 2015-08-10 12:09:27 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:

Why are the small number of forum dwellers that I would not like to have a beer with almost all associated with anti-ganking in some way?


Personally, I think it has to do with the kind of person who would define themselves purely in opposition to something, rather than stake out any merit on their own right.

Same reason that most of these same people are so doggedly "Grr Goons", but they have no actual positions beyond that. They define themselves purely in their dislike of something.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#183 - 2015-08-10 12:19:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Dracvlad wrote:


I know its a waste of time, but its funny to see how out of context they twist what I say and also whine about being a victim of foul language and nasty comments.



Oh the pure clueless irony on such flippant display here. Have you talked to Misters Dunning or Kruger lately? Cuz they'd like to have a word.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#184 - 2015-08-10 12:32:35 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I know its a waste of time, but its funny to see how out of context they twist what I say and also whine about being a victim of foul language and nasty comments.



Oh the pure clueless irony on such flippant display here. Have you talked to Misters Dunning or Kruger lately? Cuz they'd like to have a word.



Oooooh I am so not wounded to the core...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#185 - 2015-08-10 13:01:52 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I know its a waste of time, but its funny to see how out of context they twist what I say and also whine about being a victim of foul language and nasty comments.



Oh the pure clueless irony on such flippant display here. Have you talked to Misters Dunning or Kruger lately? Cuz they'd like to have a word.



Oooooh I am so not wounded to the core...


Well, I don't expect you would be. It is the hallmark of one who suffers from Dunning-Kruger to be so incompetent, they fail to recognise their own incompetence. Again, I'm sure if you believe hard enough, you'll be right to at least one person.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#186 - 2015-08-10 13:12:48 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I know its a waste of time, but its funny to see how out of context they twist what I say and also whine about being a victim of foul language and nasty comments.



Oh the pure clueless irony on such flippant display here. Have you talked to Misters Dunning or Kruger lately? Cuz they'd like to have a word.



Oooooh I am so not wounded to the core...


Well, I don't expect you would be. It is the hallmark of one who suffers from Dunning-Kruger to be so incompetent, they fail to recognise their own incompetence. Again, I'm sure if you believe hard enough, you'll be right to at least one person.



Godwins law and then slipping in 3 insult posts, you throw in comments where you try to show you are educated, I think you are projecting yourself onto me, poor lamb.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#187 - 2015-08-10 13:17:05 UTC
Wait, it's an insult to call an incompetent person incompetent?

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#188 - 2015-08-10 13:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Dracvlad wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


I know its a waste of time, but its funny to see how out of context they twist what I say and also whine about being a victim of foul language and nasty comments.



Oh the pure clueless irony on such flippant display here. Have you talked to Misters Dunning or Kruger lately? Cuz they'd like to have a word.



Oooooh I am so not wounded to the core...


Well, I don't expect you would be. It is the hallmark of one who suffers from Dunning-Kruger to be so incompetent, they fail to recognise their own incompetence. Again, I'm sure if you believe hard enough, you'll be right to at least one person.



Godwins law and then slipping in 3 insult posts, you throw in comments where you try to show you are educated, I think you are projecting yourself onto me, poor lamb.


See, here's the thing. You twisted an example I made out of context so you could invoke Godwin's Law, which didn't apply at all (look it up, fruitcake), and then accused everyone else of twisting what you say out of context.... see the irony here? I know it's hard but for one second, just try to exercise a brain cell or two and I will try to keep this simple - Godwin's Law does not apply to appropriate references to Hitler or Nazis. For example, if I say Hitler was right about a lot of things, it's as true as if I'd said George Bush was right about a lot of things, or if I'd said the Pope is right about a lot of things. You really need to study up on your fallacies, draccy boy, if you wanna get them right, which you absolutely have not done.

Just because someone says "Hitler" or "Nazi" does not mean you get to invoke Godwin's Law and pretend you've won. All you've done is knock over all the chess pieces and poop on the board, then pat yourself on the back and claim victory. I have literally argued with creationists and scientologists that have more logical finesse than you, and that's really bad dude.

So I'm going to explain it to you - Godwin's Law only applies when someone is analogised to Hitler or the Nazis inappropriately. For example: vaccinating children is genocide by autism and that makes you as bad as Hitler. My example, however, was not an analogy, it was a point in and of itself, that no matter how evil or whatever you perceive a source of information to be, what matters is the content of that information. That seems to be the point you've attempted to dodge by trying to invoke Godwin's Law. So how about you address that, because you haven't yet, you've just been making lots of excuses for ignoring the evidence of misbehaviour in AG circles and spruiking absolute nonsense that you've provided no evidence for yourself.

So now it's time to **** or get off the pot, mate. Or keep dodging and go full ******, you're choice.

EDIT: if your excuse for ignoring the content is you feel insulted, I will suggest never ever attempting to access a real academic arena. My last draft thesis received the notation from one professor: "are you an actual idiot or was your keyboard broken when you wrote this? Even ONE typo will get you an F mate, get your **** together"

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#189 - 2015-08-10 14:10:00 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
See, here's the thing. You twisted an example I made out of context so you could invoke Godwin's Law, which didn't apply at all (look it up, fruitcake), and then accused everyone else of twisting what you say out of context.... see the irony here? I know it's hard but for one second, just try to exercise a brain cell or two and I will try to keep this simple - Godwin's Law does not apply to appropriate references to Hitler or Nazis. For example, if I say Hitler was right about a lot of things, it's as true as if I'd said George Bush was right about a lot of things, or if I'd said the Pope is right about a lot of things. You really need to study up on your fallacies, draccy boy, if you wanna get them right, which you absolutely have not done.

Just because someone says "Hitler" or "Nazi" does not mean you get to invoke Godwin's Law and pretend you've won. All you've done is knock over all the chess pieces and poop on the board, then pat yourself on the back and claim victory. I have literally argued with creationists and scientologists that have more logical finesse than you, and that's really bad dude.

So I'm going to explain it to you - Godwin's Law only applies when someone is analogised to Hitler or the Nazis inappropriately. For example: vaccinating children is genocide by autism and that makes you as bad as Hitler. My example, however, was not an analogy, it was a point in and of itself, that no matter how evil or whatever you perceive a source of information to be, what matters is the content of that information. That seems to be the point you've attempted to dodge by trying to invoke Godwin's Law. So how about you address that, because you haven't yet, you've just been making lots of excuses for ignoring the evidence of misbehaviour in AG circles and spruiking absolute nonsense that you've provided no evidence for yourself.

So now it's time to **** or get off the pot, mate. Or keep dodging and go full ******, you're choice.

EDIT: if your excuse for ignoring the content is you feel insulted, I will suggest never ever attempting to access a real academic arena. My last draft thesis received the notation from one professor: "are you an actual idiot or was your keyboard broken when you wrote this? Even ONE typo will get you an F mate, get your **** together"


You are really upset aren't you, my focus is purely on the fact that you guys are using in game and out of game tactics to drive the hated carebears out of Eve, the use of the petition system by CODE for people swearing at them is well known in the game and you people have admitted that. I on the other hand am not a fragile flower and have never petitioned anyone for swearing at me or other such rubbish, I did not feel the need to after all this is supposed to be a game for adults and tough guys. You need to HTFU.

In terms of the Godwins Law comment, you missed my post where I acknowledged that you did not use that in an offensive capacity, or chose to ignore it most likely..., but I have no idea what you were trying to do by invoking Hitler, was that because your mouth went before your brain, this is not the place to discuss the Nazi's.

But guilt by association is a tool used very well by CODE, oh dear a couple of carebears used nasty words, all carebears are nasty foul racist, sexist people who need to be purged from Eve and all that.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#190 - 2015-08-10 14:27:58 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
You are really upset aren't you, my focus is purely on the fact that you guys are using in game and out of game tactics to drive the hated carebears out of Eve, the use of the petition system by CODE for people swearing at them is well known in the game and you people have admitted that. I on the other hand am not a fragile flower and have never petitioned anyone for swearing at me or other such rubbish, I did not feel the need to after all this is supposed to be a game for adults and tough guys. You need to HTFU.
Except for the fact that CODE. don't generally petition people for swearing at them, they petition people that make threats against their real life persons, their pets and their families.

Telling them to die in a fire (ingame) is fine, telling them that you're going to hunt them down in real life, disembowel their parents, have forced intercourse with their children and set fire to their pets and home is not.

Quote:
But guilt by association is a tool used very well by CODE, oh dear a couple of carebears used nasty words, all carebears are nasty foul racist, sexist people who need to be purged from Eve and all that.
When a significant proportion of the people that they interact with spew forth vitriol, misogyny, homophobia, racism and other forms of hatred they kind of have a point.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#191 - 2015-08-10 14:42:35 UTC
Quote:

Forum rules

4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

5. Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.

7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.

Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums.

23. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.


Closed.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

First pagePrevious page8910