Crime & Punishment

Let me explain something very simple, Paula. There is only one, just one, psychological evaluation that applies to gamers in regards to gaming: it's called the Bartle Test, and none of the results of the Bartle Test are sicknesses or disorders of any kind, either psychological or otherwise. Which is why no matter the terms you pick to label us, they will all be wrong all of the time unless you have either A. done your evaluation using the Bartle Test, or B. you're a qualified psychologist who has sat down with one of us and done the minimum of seven to eight hours of evaluation required to form an objective diagnosis.

You're also wrong by being what's called, not even wrong. I can see Wolfgang Pauli's reply to almost everything you post in my head: "What you said was so confused that one could not tell whether it was nonsense or not."

Your argument is a non sequitur for the following reasons.

Your argument.
A. People who play Eve in a certain way, are playing as psychos.
B. People are psychos in real life.
C. Therefore people who play Eve in a certain way, are psychos in real life.

You'll find the English language littered with many words, from other languages. It's hardly surprising to find Latin in there, considering how old it is.

Does EVE sell boxed copies anymore?

Cause this should be a disclaimer if it does.

The terms and conditions would have a disclaimer.

There's two main problems.

1) Some people see their time as money partially because of PLEX as they think that PLEX gives isk a real monetary value.

2) Some people don't really know how to RP they see characters as people sat behind keyboards instead of just characters.



Those that look at the game as in 1) and/or 2) are looking at it the wrong way.

PLEX doesn't have a real monetary value once it has been redeemed in-game it has an isk value. If someone is worried about time spent in-game then maybe they shouldn't be playing games. Other than the social aspect, games are a time sink.

2) speaks for itself no real need to expand on it.

Is it not plausible that I simply view this game as an intellectual exercise where I wish to blow up as many ships (or ISK worth of ships) as possible? Or is it not possible that I have set myself the goal of controlling high security space and to further that goal I am forced by the game mechanics to gank ships that reside there? Perhaps I have realized that I can more efficiently gather resources in this game by taking them from other players? Or perhaps I like to just like to see my name on killboards or on killmails.

Are these goals or reasons "cowardly" in your mind? Perhaps. But why do I have to be motivated by some "pathological" desire to inflict pain on others? You would not level that accusation at a boxer seeking to knock-out another human being in the ring, or the poker player who seeks to inflict financial harm on their poker buddies - both situations that cause actual real-world injury to other humans. People play games generally to win and as long as they stay within the agreed rules that is considered "fair play". In Eve, ganking is intended gameplay and using it to further my goals (i.e. "win") I am doing nothing wrong or that I should feel ashamed of, and especially do not need to be motivated by the sadism that you are accusing your fellow players of.

You can play Eve how you want and you are welcome to judge how other players' in-game actions as "cheap" or "cowardly", but I really don't see how you can ascribe motivations to the players behind the keyboard. You cannot know what motivates me just like I cannot know what motivates you to take whatever in-game actions you participate in. All we can know is that we are both are engaging in legal, approved gameplay which includes suicide ganking of our fellow players as confirmed by CCP multiple times.

Apparently more women like horror (films/books) than guys.

Seems to me, it's not EVE players you need to worry about it's your wives and girlfriends.

Event Horizon.

Enough said.

No other horror movie has either held my attention long enough, or had a good enough plot/story, to scare me the way that did. If you haven't seen it, do. It is a horror benchmark that all horror movies should strive to achieve.

LOL...sorry to hear that...but yeah...it's not exactly the "get her in the mood" kind of movie. I love horror and sci-fi (yes, I know I'm a freak of nature). Try something less gory..and more suspensful...something that will make he "need your protction"...so to speak :) Supernatural movies are good for that...though there aren't very many good ones.

and yes...it's the wivesand gfs you need to watch out for...*sharpens the axe*

Who made a psychological assessment? Please, point them out. Point out their qualifications for said assessment, and please also provide a ledger of the hours spent with the person being assessed.

You can't, because no such assessment took place. What happened was psychological conjecture from unqualified armchair psychologists. I've never responded well to that, even before I was in CODE, even before I played EVE, because that kind of conjecture is used for one thing and one thing only - prescriptive retaliation.

Do you even know what goes into a psychological assessment? Not to mention if actual assessments were taking place here for free, I wish I'd known that sooner, I could have saved a veritable dickload of cash. Like, seriously, a few grand just for an accurate diagnosis, and that's not including seeing a psychiatrist afterwards for a treatment plan.

I'm going to say this one more time: there is one, and only one, psychological assessment that applies to gamers regarding gaming, and that is the Bartle Test. None of the results are psychological conditions or disorders of any kind. Tell you what, why don't you use that for your 'assessment' of CODE members, and tell me what the results are, and I would be able to take you more seriously. But if you're going to pretend for one second that your subjective opinion of people that play a game in a way you don't like is the same thing as a psychological assessment, you are literally less precious than lead paint, and probably just as intelligent.

Do you have the professional qualifications to assess us? I though not. As is so often the case with you, you got nothing.