Crime & Punishment

You're so full of it, it's not even funny. My mission bear is in AG channel, and I never see pro-CODE trolls using that language. I see people trolling it, sure, but never like that. Why doesn't high sec militia's blog ever have screen shots of this alleged CODE misconduct...because it doesn't happen? I suppose the practically daily carebear tears on Minerbumping are all made up?

Drac, allow me to reiterate.

People have agency over the things they say, and much more so over the things they type. I can understand a slip of the tongue in a heated moment, but a slip of the finger? You have to take your time to deliberately type that stuff, time that people could use to think before they speak. They choose to relinquish their agency over what they say to their emotions, and the responsibility for what they then deliberately type out is 100% on them. Don't try to pass the buck to pretend like it's someone else's fault. If people can't take responsibility for their own choices and their own agency, then they have bigger problems then losing a few pixel internet spaceships.

This whole "CODE provoked them routine" is just buck-passing, and it's the same line of thinking used by the social justice mobs on twitter to excuse their irrational threats of violence against people who don't think the way they're expected to by Orwellian Marxists. Ironically, it's the same line of thinking used to justify the provocation defence in QLD, Australia, which basically says that if you murder a gay person because they came onto you, the coming onto you part is provocation enough to murder them. In all cases, it's buck-passing. All cases. People have agency over themselves and their choices. No one put a gun to their head and told them, "call CODE faggots or we'll end your puny life" or any such nonsense.

You really really need to grow the **** up and put your brain into a rational gear, start thinking before you type stuff yourself. But I don't expect much - like I said before, I fully expect you to defer to what you want to believe rather than ever have a rational thought movement in even one-seventeenth of a brain cell.

Really? Scroll back several months and read the comments..Have you seen the lovely things your beloved AG's have said about me? You'd be appaled by the filth that spews from their mouths..at least I'd hope you would. Never before have I encountered more racism, sexist, mysogamist, and just down right sickening people as I have with many of the AG's and the self proclaimed "good guys". It would do you credit to take the time to see..rather than base on rhetoric.

You are entitled to your opinions, just make them informed opinions. You have no idea what it's like. You have no idea what the people of Code are like. You only know what you've heard and whatever little experience you have had with them directly. The truth is, I have flown with many groups, and Code. has been the coolest bunch of people so far (outside of Devil's Warriors and 0th). The real problem is all of the "carebears" and "good guys" that spew their filth at any kind of loss or content and refuse to accept that it is what it's supposed to be. RL threats of harm or sexual assault do not belong in a game...and if someone is the type of person to do these things over a fantasy loss...then what does that say about them, going by their own "logic" of the AG's and carebears, that people emulate what they are in rl?

You will find the truth...if what you are looking for is really the truth and not more tinfoil propaganda and rhetoric. I suspect, however, that it's not the truth so many want. After all, the truth is boring...and lies and exaggeration is so much more exciting and story worthy...don't you think?

Is the debate not going your way?
The forums is not like the various CODE twitch streams where the delayed stream can be interrupted when things don't go well.

Yep, we do other stuff too. I FCed a fight a little while ago where three of us from CODE. took on ten members of a rebel corp in a wardec situaion, losing nothing and popping a 2.5b Vindicator as well as some small stuff.

CODE. always wins. Sometimes through ganking, sometimes through shiptoasting, sometimes through 'gentleman's rules' non-deceptive combat.

Glad you are having fun, well I have had exchanges with CODE players and some of them deliberately push buttons to wind people up, for someone like me it does not work, I just laugh. But this is the thing, you are saying all AG guilt by association, look at your use of the word "many". And that careless use of the word many undermines your carefully crafted cry of outrage.

To say that these people are evil people because of heat of the moment reaction to losses is rather meh!

I am playing a game, a game that has a meta above the pure gameplay, you are getting at the players with CODE, its a great setup, but it is what it is and running around with thin skins is part of the meta game.

Sorry if the truth hurts...

LOL, that was a confused post, they don't think after suffering a ship loss, they type what they think in that instance, I have seen it a few times myself. And you are trying to make out that I think they have no responsibility for their comments, I never said that, I am talking about CODE's very cleverly set up manipulation of them to get that reaction, you are just twisting my words to say something else.

No it is not buck passing, what I see is a very cleverely crafted set up that is designed to go after a whole group of players, and you lot being thin skinned about it is part of that setup. You may twist and turn and try to divert attention away from it, but that is what I am talking about.

You keep using the words grow up and get an education in an effort to wind me up, all tricks of the trade for people who are bad at arguing the point, as if I give a damn what a twit (due to your wind up attempts) like you thinks of me. Take your confused understanding of twitter and that court case in Australia, first of all the people that I circulate with would not go near twitter for any rational conversation, why the hell would I try to debate there? The court case in Australia is pretty obvious to people with the concept of a crime of passion or heat of the moment reaction which has existed in law long before progressives arrived, it is evident that pre-meditated murder is a higher level of crime and mitigating factors are also important in terms of sentencing, I will leave it at that.

I think you are confused...

Don't gaslight me Kaarus. And once more, if you are the one to can drive people who "can't handle the game" into a meltdown, what does that make you? Think about that for a moment there, Neidermeyer.

Apparently you are having difficulty between the words "many" and "all". I laugh it off too..otherwise I wouldn't have lasted over 2 1/2 years. It is, however, testament to the "personalities" of those who are supposed to be the good guys.

How can you say, in 1 breath, it's not right..then in the next that it's all part of the meta? My point wasn't that it bothers me..because it doesn't. I couldn't care less what some internet idiot thinks. My point was a response to the complaints about Code. Being the ones that do it. That is one sided and untrue..and you know it...so don't try to feebly forum warrior me and twist my words around when you know darn well what I meant. :)

You can twist it around all you want. Making rl death and sexual assault threats are not part of the meta no matter how you spin it.

My outrage is not about the petty comments and threats against me..it's about the lies that Code. and other pirates are the ones who do it. Telling someone they suck, fail constantly, and should biomass in game is completely different than saying you're gonna come to my house and **** me then kill me. If that's meta to you..you need to seek help.

If you're going to go there..make sure you don't do it one sided. THAT'S what my issue is. It gets old with the bs rhetoric.

Edit: lol..I was not aware the "R" word for sexual assault was a blocked word....anyways..feel free to respond, but from here on, any further communication between us will be done with spaceships and blaster cannons. ( in game ofc) :) I'm not interested in talking to someone who denies the obvious. Love ya...mean it...

And now you're switched to "no big deal", trying to excuse the flagrant violations of the ToS.