EVE General Discussion

Ive been playing eve since 2006 and i seen so much change over that time.

Null sec use to have major brawls all the time now its nothing but rental space and small fights here and there.

then Low sec you would see decent fights and gate camps everywhere and large faction warfare battles.

High sec use to be some what quiet and full of miners and ratters. I remember when you could tank a Hulk out and solo kill guys in them..

These days i see Nullsec alliances jumping into other alliances battles just to get kills, and some have to travel long distances just to find people to attack that are willing to engage becasue of the amount on rented space.

In low sec ! all you here about and see are cap ships getting ganked while trying to travel from one place to another.

And there is high sec! i see players/corps telling miners to pay a mining fee to mine freely or they get ganked

I see groups ganking indy ships all the time exp freighters.

even ratting ships getting ganked by players flying in the sites and hitting the site trigger to spawn the entire room and once that ratter is taking enough Dps you can eaily gank them as well.

Seems like high sec might as well go away and make all of eve a null sec and Lowsec game..

If they want a New player friendly area then make a syatem that has a low isk profit that allows them to learn and once they decide and feel comfortable they can leave the Small high sec area and cant return but there will be missions that send them in a low sec area that they cant be attacked until the click on something to agree to leave the safety of Hs Timed missions so they cant fly around just to say haha you cant attack me. after the timer is up you are free to attack.

All of this is just my opinion from what ive been seeing.. a full nusec and low sec would be kinda cool i think..

You can always orbit our FW plexes. It's like sov lasering but without the sov laser.

If High sec goes away, most of the people there would probably go away too. Meaning you won't get more targets everywhere else, and CCP would struggle to keep the lights on.

Better solution is that you go away instead.

It's posts like these that fuel the "you just want me to leave high sec so you can have easy kill" hysteria that many in high sec cling to.

I don't 'like' high sec either, but I can understand that it's a necessary evil given the fact that some people couldn't play a game like this without it because they have a huge aversion to even imaginary loss.

I say should it go away because in a since with all the changes people who leave corps because they want to avoid wardecs have now found that being in a npc corp has only slightly increased your chance of not losing something expensive.

Ganking has proven that!

When you think your safe flying billions worth of assets in Hs you find yourself getting ganked and rage quit.

Now if you increase the risk by lowering Hs to a lowsec stat then people usually try to be more careful when moving around .

Not autopiloting in a expesive ship or freighter in Hs thinking your safe just to come back too see you been ganked.

False since of security to me.

Wait, is this a stealth "nerf wardecs and ganking, buff highsec" thread?

What the hell is even happening right now? :iiam:

Oh my, looky looky. A thread about??? Ending hi-sec? Wow...what a completely new and exciting idea, fresh of the printing presses.

Seriously, seeing a new Nuke Hisec thread pop up in GD is like seeing a circus tent being put up in a corn field. You know you should just keep moving on, but the draw to see all the clowns, trolls and degenerates is just to much...

I've been in the game as long as you have. So chances are, like me, you remember a highsec that was used mainly as a noob starter zone and a place to trade if there was nowhere else to put loot.

The problem is not that highsec is too pervasive in importance and utility, it's that the mechanics of lowsec and nullsec suck as far as travel is concerned.

This is why highsec is filled up, and the "elite PVPer" of highsec is just as incapable of handling low and null (when not in a big fleet or a 50 to 1 death camp) and therefore in highsec for the same reason their prey is.

Highsec should not be removed, just made as relevant as it was back in 2006: a noob zone. Few players would have dreamed of "working" in highsec back then if they have the ability to go elsewhere. The ones who did were the ones who did not have much time to play and were stunted in their development and knowledge. They took a little more time.

And as time wore on and low and null progressively sucked more, the "I jumped into low and died in a fire in 2 seconds" story, though not as prevalent as thought, became all too common. So from around 2008 to 2011 it was common to see players grinding ISK and SP endlessly for that holy grail of leaving highsec. But then Dominion SOV and the start of the great blue donut had come along by then, and then came highsec incursions, and most of those players ended up getting bored out of the game.

The advertising of the game over the years did not help either. The advertising implied that he who had the most ISK wins, hence came the min-maxer aspergian era that continues to this day but now we even have PVPers who are the same way about their stats.

Someday things might get mixed up enough that people can leave highsec and have a chance instead of a sure bet to get ganked or take a holiday and find everything they own is in a station under new management and the new owner wants to be a douche and then there are people with nothing better to do but camp you in all day. Yeah nullsec keeping it classy. Who wants that crap? Oh and the nerd drama.


So there you have it. Highsec should stay, but the other zones need to suck less.

Just becuase you found a new way to bring up the same ole' discussion doesn't make you special. If you want to find out what people think of Hi-Sec, use the search feature and watch your computer melt. You can split hairs all you want , it's the same damn discussion...again.

Not agreeing or disagreeing, but premise looks kind of strange.

"So all the things worth mentioning happen in N place. Obvious answer to that is, of course, removing N place."