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summer of sov is over?

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TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#1 - 2015-08-08 21:52:07 UTC
soon alliance tournament starts, im guessing ccp will make announcements about what they are working on there.

im curious how many of us are against anymore nullsec/sov buffs? such as structures etc.
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov

anyone agree?
BrundleMeth
Black Parrot
Sylvanas Super mercenary
#2 - 2015-08-08 21:55:49 UTC
No !!!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-08-08 22:17:40 UTC
Null sov has been ignored for 5 years and you are whining because of a summer of sov fixing?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2015-08-08 22:20:28 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov
You'd get really annoyed if the devs took the time to finish a development project rather than leave it half-arsed before moving on to the next thing they don't finish?

Do you have some weird broken-game fetish, and if so, why do you have to bring it to this forum?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2015-08-08 22:28:05 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
soon alliance tournament starts, im guessing ccp will make announcements about what they are working on there.

im curious how many of us are against anymore nullsec/sov buffs? such as structures etc.
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov

anyone agree?


Since there were basically 5 straight years of empire focused expansions, I think yeah we can maybe stand afull year of 0.0 focus.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-08-08 22:39:39 UTC
Having recently moved to 0-sec I feel it's the worst made space. WH space was weird but it worked. Low is great. High is great.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#7 - 2015-08-08 22:43:34 UTC
Daerrol wrote:
High is great.

You have discovered the secret to eve online

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-08-08 22:47:54 UTC
Working on null is not a one and done process

This is a huge thing (as you have seen on the roadmap) and it is a series of steps. So no, 'summer and then we fix . . . [whatever the hell you fly in]' is not what the plan is. the plan is to finish what is there on the table before we move on to other stuff. If it takes several expansions . . . so be it

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)

TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#9 - 2015-08-08 22:58:59 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Daerrol wrote:
High is great.

You have discovered the secret to eve online


rofl
Swanky nutjob
Holding Inc.
#10 - 2015-08-08 23:01:07 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
soon alliance tournament starts, im guessing ccp will make announcements about what they are working on there.

im curious how many of us are against anymore nullsec/sov buffs? such as structures etc.
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov

anyone agree?


CCP has a very bad track record of not finishing of what they started, the last sov system is a good example. Let's not give them any encouragement to leave this one half baked as well. It's not like they can afford to bleed more disgruntled long term players.
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#11 - 2015-08-08 23:08:34 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Working on null is not a one and done process

This is a huge thing (as you have seen on the roadmap) and it is a series of steps. So no, 'summer and then we fix . . . [whatever the hell you fly in]' is not what the plan is. the plan is to finish what is there on the table before we move on to other stuff. If it takes several expansions . . . so be it

m


maybe ccp should consider a more wholistic approach in the future, i just find it depressing to know for a fact that ccp will be ignoring highsec for a extended period
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-08-08 23:16:41 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
Working on null is not a one and done process

This is a huge thing (as you have seen on the roadmap) and it is a series of steps. So no, 'summer and then we fix . . . [whatever the hell you fly in]' is not what the plan is. the plan is to finish what is there on the table before we move on to other stuff. If it takes several expansions . . . so be it

m


maybe ccp should consider a more wholistic approach in the future, i just find it depressing to know for a fact that ccp will be ignoring highsec for a extended period

YEAH dude. Thats straight up garbage!

Thought they have like 10 different teams so they dont have to just fix null then half a year-year fixing whatever.

They need to work on how they separate teams and do modular work more widespead not just icon team and new player retentuon team and then errybody else work on fozziesov team


I MEAN ****. CCP FALCON SAID ON TWITTER THEY HAD TO DELAY THE PLEX FOR NEPAL TSHIRT CUZ THEY WERE FOCUSING ON RELEASES?!?

HOE MANY DEVS IT TAKE TO MAKE A FREAKING TSHIRT DUDES? THE ARTUSTS RREALLY THAT INVOLVED IN FOZZIESOV?


Think they just focusing dev/art time to macrotransactions not free shirts
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#13 - 2015-08-08 23:17:40 UTC
TheExtruder wrote:

maybe ccp should consider a more wholistic approach in the future, i just find it depressing to know for a fact that ccp will be ignoring highsec for a extended period

You know the next thing in the roadmap is new structures.
Which is for EVERY area of space.
So..... while we can quibble over the relative capabilities of the structures in each area of space and argue things like the refining boost in null being bad for the game as they are a 'must have' to compete, and should instead be richer resources in null but the same refining everywhere......
We can't claim CCP is ignoring High sec, considering if the new structures are done right they will be amazing for high sec also.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-08-08 23:25:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
TheExtruder wrote:
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov
You'd get really annoyed if the devs took the time to finish a development project rather than leave it half-arsed before moving on to the next thing they don't finish?

Do you have some weird broken-game fetish, and if so, why do you have to bring it to this forum?

no he's just mad, you should see some of the stuff he's littered f&i with.
Pah Cova
Made in Portugal S.A.
#15 - 2015-08-08 23:48:27 UTC
Well, my feeling is that they are working, bad or good but they are working, however I dont like the idea of destructible stations, but the existing stations on null should have self defense since the beginng (this come too late and if stations had have guns, maybe the scenario have been another one on null).
Personally if the stations can be destroyed I will not going to have nothing on there and probably I will not go on null either, guess the stations are fine as they are now, I agree with the revamp and the models they show to us, should have self defense yes, but not destructible, that will broke CCP plans of having null sec market.
People dont like very much the idea that can one day or another lose all their assets, or, at least the majority of them, its not cool.

CCP could start giving to drone regions what they deserve, instead of breaking the game every patch. Drone regions should be equivalent to other npc regions. If all regions on Eve have drone anomalies, why cant drone regions have all anomalies from other regions too in the same proportion?

Guess its time for CCP take actions to bring people into the game and into null, and that is for yesterday, before more players starts playing another games and disconnect their accounts on Eve. If players cant have and do what they like to do in Eve, theres always much more games to spend money and most of them are free.
I´m playing WOT now, but I dont really like that game too much, but its better to play something and enjoy it, then play just for play, thats what I feel now with Eve.
CCP and many players think that all the players should do pvp all time, big fleets etc, no, that is very wrong, On eve, players can choose what they want to do (at least its CCP propaganda), but in fact CCP are pushing too much players to do what they dont want to do, they have to balance the game or somewhere in one expansion dev´s are going to discover that the only players remaining on game are the pvpeers, and I can imagine how much of them they will be....


TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#16 - 2015-08-09 00:08:33 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
TheExtruder wrote:
i know i personally would get really annoyed if that happened after we just went through summer of sov
You'd get really annoyed if the devs took the time to finish a development project rather than leave it half-arsed before moving on to the next thing they don't finish?

Do you have some weird broken-game fetish, and if so, why do you have to bring it to this forum?

no he's just mad, you should see some of the stuff he's littered f&i with.


are you like the cool guy of the forums? nice to meet you, its an honor Blink
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#17 - 2015-08-09 00:17:43 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
TheExtruder wrote:

maybe ccp should consider a more wholistic approach in the future, i just find it depressing to know for a fact that ccp will be ignoring highsec for a extended period

You know the next thing in the roadmap is new structures.
Which is for EVERY area of space.
So..... while we can quibble over the relative capabilities of the structures in each area of space and argue things like the refining boost in null being bad for the game as they are a 'must have' to compete, and should instead be richer resources in null but the same refining everywhere......
We can't claim CCP is ignoring High sec, considering if the new structures are done right they will be amazing for high sec also.


well said, i agree the new structures has potential to fix some of the big problems in highsec, hope the new structures are not just for solving nullsec problems
TheExtruder
TheExtruder Corporation
#18 - 2015-08-09 00:25:07 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
TheExtruder wrote:
Mike Azariah wrote:
Working on null is not a one and done process

This is a huge thing (as you have seen on the roadmap) and it is a series of steps. So no, 'summer and then we fix . . . [whatever the hell you fly in]' is not what the plan is. the plan is to finish what is there on the table before we move on to other stuff. If it takes several expansions . . . so be it

m


maybe ccp should consider a more wholistic approach in the future, i just find it depressing to know for a fact that ccp will be ignoring highsec for a extended period

YEAH dude. Thats straight up garbage!

Thought they have like 10 different teams so they dont have to just fix null then half a year-year fixing whatever.

They need to work on how they separate teams and do modular work more widespead not just icon team and new player retentuon team and then errybody else work on fozziesov team


I MEAN ****. CCP FALCON SAID ON TWITTER THEY HAD TO DELAY THE PLEX FOR NEPAL TSHIRT CUZ THEY WERE FOCUSING ON RELEASES?!?

HOE MANY DEVS IT TAKE TO MAKE A FREAKING TSHIRT DUDES? THE ARTUSTS RREALLY THAT INVOLVED IN FOZZIESOV?


Think they just focusing dev/art time to macrotransactions not free shirts


yeah separate teams is good to strive towards for sure. my guess is the real responsibility is in the hands of the teams themselves, if they are making great progress and the creative juices are flowing they will be left alone to continue with their work.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#19 - 2015-08-09 00:27:34 UTC
I remember when Dust was supposed to shake up sov

Fortunately it got a laser headshot so

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2015-08-09 03:53:12 UTC
Maybe they should split the debs up into teams. So like one team can work on one project, and another team can work on another project, and we can stop pretending that major changes to one aspect of the game require every man in the building to pitch in.

Idk I think it's a cool idea.
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