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What happened to new damage model?

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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#1 - 2015-08-08 15:50:27 UTC
Year or two back CCP showed us plans for new damage model in EVE. I remember seeing pictures where shield and armor damage are shown in completely different way. What happened to these plans? Are they still coming or is this project cancelled?

Mikhem

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Arla Sarain
#2 - 2015-08-08 16:14:24 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
Year or two back CCP showed us plans for new damage model in EVE. I remember seeing pictures where shield and armor damage are shown in completely different way. What happened to these plans? Are they still coming or is this project cancelled?

Please refer and show.
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-08-08 18:36:42 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
Mikhem wrote:
Year or two back CCP showed us plans for new damage model in EVE. I remember seeing pictures where shield and armor damage are shown in completely different way. What happened to these plans? Are they still coming or is this project cancelled?

Please refer and show.


2012 Fanfest. 1h58min mark. I had almost forgotten about this. Atleast this is what I think he is talking about, but it could be something else.

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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#4 - 2015-08-08 18:50:01 UTC
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Arla Sarain wrote:
Mikhem wrote:
Year or two back CCP showed us plans for new damage model in EVE. I remember seeing pictures where shield and armor damage are shown in completely different way. What happened to these plans? Are they still coming or is this project cancelled?

Please refer and show.


2012 Fanfest. 1h58min mark. I had almost forgotten about this. Atleast this is what I think he is talking about, but it could be something else.

Yes there it is! Here is direct link to this new damage model thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Ozvef7CvQ&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&feature=player_detailpage#t=7098
You can get timed url when you press right mouse button over video screen when it is in right spot.

Mikhem

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-08-08 19:03:51 UTC
Here ya go a picture for you.

http://i.imgur.com/5q4m0bp.jpg

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#6 - 2015-08-08 19:05:13 UTC
Ring mining too, I though it was going to shake up null, what happened to that?

I think it had pictures of rings~

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Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-08-08 19:11:20 UTC
Wow! That video brought back some memories! Although, I do have to ask, where is it? The interface, visible damage and everything else? Where the heck is all that? I guess like WiS, CCP decided to abandon those projects, too. *majorsadface*

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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#8 - 2015-08-08 19:18:23 UTC
Arla Sarain wrote:
Mikhem wrote:
Year or two back CCP showed us plans for new damage model in EVE. I remember seeing pictures where shield and armor damage are shown in completely different way. What happened to these plans? Are they still coming or is this project cancelled?

Please refer and show.


feel stupid yet?
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#9 - 2015-08-08 19:35:44 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Here ya go a picture for you.

http://i.imgur.com/5q4m0bp.jpg

Oh that look so cool beyond amazing...

Mikhem

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#10 - 2015-08-08 20:34:14 UTC
The UI in that image made me think someone photoshopped a capture from ED.

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Nihlus Valke
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-08-08 21:00:09 UTC
At this point I'm not sure why CCP keeps showing off features they know damn well they cannot deliver. Every fanfest they have presentations about what they would like to include and 90% of it never sees the light of day. More astonishing is the players who, despite being disappointed year after year, act as if CCP is actually serious about any of these types of improvements.

None of that was ever going to happen and CCP knew this when they showed it off. They just want to get people excited because I guess it would be deemed boring if their presentations were honest and practical.


Why have this...

"This year at EVE Fanfest: More of the same"


When you can flaunt this...

"The year at EVE Fanfest: Player piloted fighters!!! Actual ship explosions on destruction!!! Flying into low orbit and fighting within planetary atmosphere!!! Player avatars can now have sex with each other on stations!!! Exciting!!!"
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-08-08 21:07:08 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The UI in that image made me think someone photoshopped a capture from ED.



CCP made that image so you probably aren't far off, this one also made by them.

http://i.imgur.com/L7wkZcJ.jpg

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#13 - 2015-08-08 21:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I swear I saw a planetary flight demo few years ago. Also ambulation demo and even ship painting demo and tessellation demo. This damage model isnt really something worth talking about.

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2015-08-08 21:24:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Then there is that hi-res texture pack. It was said that they even had some assets ready at that point...

I mean, there are dozens of pages of us bi***ing about relevant things these days, it's good to bi**h about irrelevant things from time to time for a change, agree?

That's not to say I don't want to see better damage model than that smoke trail from late 199x, or that pack, or something else... But eh.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#15 - 2015-08-08 22:53:25 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Then there is that hi-res texture pack. It was said that they even had some assets ready at that point...

I mean, there are dozens of pages of us bi***ing about relevant things these days, it's good to bi**h about irrelevant things from time to time for a change, agree?

That's not to say I don't want to see better damage model than that smoke trail from late 199x, or that pack, or something else... But eh.


Except the thing about the high res textures was more of a technology problem. The recent download on demand change allow them to do that now, but they need to make all the other textures that aren't already high res, and otherwise QA said textures to be truly ready.

In fact most of these are an internal technology problem, though I have no idea why the 2008 walking in stations demo-model was COMPLETELY scrapped

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Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2015-08-08 23:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonas Kanjus
Xercodo wrote:
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Then there is that hi-res texture pack. It was said that they even had some assets ready at that point...

I mean, there are dozens of pages of us bi***ing about relevant things these days, it's good to bi**h about irrelevant things from time to time for a change, agree?

That's not to say I don't want to see better damage model than that smoke trail from late 199x, or that pack, or something else... But eh.


Except the thing about the high res textures was more of a technology problem. The recent download on demand change allow them to do that now, but they need to make all the other textures that aren't already high res, and otherwise QA said textures to be truly ready.

In fact most of these are an internal technology problem, though I have no idea why the 2008 walking in stations demo-model was COMPLETELY scrapped


It was scrapped in favor of fixing game mechanics. Players felt it was more important for the dev team to focus on fixing the game than adding a new "thing" to the game.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2015-08-09 00:39:37 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The UI in that image made me think someone photoshopped a capture from ED.



CCP made that image so you probably aren't far off, this one also made by them.

http://i.imgur.com/L7wkZcJ.jpg




:-O


I just nerdgasmed

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#18 - 2015-08-09 01:08:26 UTC
For a start they could just give each ship model about 8 internal points that weapons fire targets. Rather than 1. So that when you fire weapons at a target, you get impacts across the ship, not just a single impact point. That alone would make a huge visual difference to a ship under fire.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#19 - 2015-08-09 07:53:29 UTC
Jonas Kanjus wrote:
Xercodo wrote:

In fact most of these are an internal technology problem, though I have no idea why the 2008 walking in stations demo-model was COMPLETELY scrapped


It was scrapped in favor of fixing game mechanics. Players felt it was more important for the dev team to focus on fixing the game than adding a new "thing" to the game.

Considering they scrapped it before Incarna, this argument doesnt fit anywhere. As Xercodo said, it was a technology problem and they wanted to do it all with new shinies they had at that moment. Like the clothing system that did not fit into previous technology. They wanted it to be excellent, but gravity is not just a theory. If you want to get high, you will have to hold tight. They could have done that easilly by forgetting about delivering only one room and work on more assets and then delivering them later with bigger, more similar to demo, Incarna.

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OverlordY
Interspan
#20 - 2015-08-09 10:58:28 UTC
So many abandoned cool features... In favour of not much ...
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