Crime & Punishment

Foxes are bad because they eat bunnies.
Bunnies are good.
If you play a game that lets you be a fox and choose to play one then you are a bad person who hates bunnies.
Save the bunnies.

It is lovely how so little changes overtime.

I dont understand what people think when bringing an argument to the table tho:

- EVE is a multiplayer said MMORPG sandbox style, while very little of it is geared towards RPG, even from Devs. The lore in EVE is very dismissive, restricted and restrictive as far as backstory goes, but it is still a MMORPG as far as its docs go. So it is much of a shot in the foot to say that exploding a ship is the same as killing someone in an FPS non persistent game. When you have a mmorpg, and specially EVE, things you have do not come back after you restart, do not cost play money you receive after you restart, and EVE is not about exploding ships. If you do have other things to do, the game cant be about only one thing and all the rest are there just to indulge you. Not even the devs have the balls to say that eve is about exploding ships only. There are a considerable work over industry and trading in Eve, and that is not just "because they can". While I dont use this as reason to make it so people can mine afk alone, I just dont see how you can say things like "eve is all about killing and destroying" and still want to be considered a reasonable and "non-dumbass" person.

- You can say whatever you want, people dont change when they are drunk, when they are alone and when they are hidden behind the anonimity of internet, not even when they are playing EVE or any other mmo. You might want to believe that you are not a psycho in real life when you are a psycho in EVE online, but you most definitely are. Im not saying everyone who does pvp or ill driven kills are disturbed, but the kind of joy in active search you have driven by motivations ranging from just random destruction of someone else's property for amusement to the joy of thinking you caused someone to suffer, they signs you are a disturbed individual, regardless of the conditions or means you use to fulfill that apetites. When you say that the joy of making people suffer for no other reason than pure amusement, or knowingly destroy things and people with the intent to make them miserable in the game has no relation with your mentality outside the game is the same as say that a pedofile in the internet is not a problem because he may be a sexually normal person in his real life. See the problem ?

- This question is as old as EVE online, and I had seen a documentary on Icelandic modern history from the time around EVE was developed and launched, so I have an idea what have inspired a lot in EVE online mechanics, and by now most people should have thought that this game is not for kids, not for casual gamers, and not for the majority of the people who start playing it. I dont really understand why ccp does not make this game to be popular, as it has the graphics, the mechanics, and the theme, all combined in a one of a kind experience, if it wasnt for the excessive power relinquished to players. On the other hand, the fact that I dont understand why ccp restricts the game for a smaller playerbase it could have, I dont really care. What i find amusing is that people discuss eve as if the game was for them, individually. More amusing is the fact that CCP allows it and enables those players by setting up ideal conditions for that.

- You must be really careful about using EVE online accounts as a correlation to eve online human players, and thus, numbers on what most players do taking into consideration what accounts do. I have currently 3 active accounts and I have had 11 concurrent active accounts at the peak of my "account having". Most of people multibox huge numbers for combat reasons, either to win or lose in mass, and therefore, from the numbers you can take that people in eve online stay when they lose ships and die, or most people engage in pvp frequently, but what data shows is that many ACCOUNTS do that, not many people. The "statistical stick man argument" is not an EVE thing, and has been around from ages, and always used to justify the lest honorable behaviors as being the "norm". As if when many people do one thing, that means you are ok to do it too.

But it is all fun and games, and EVE online for me is just a "single player game with a lot of people I can see playing". I never really got hold of why people go around losing things, being scamed, insulted, bullied, harassed, and still go talk to strangers in Jita or places of the likes, trusting someone will actually do something potentially damaging without the intent of causing damage. Pretty much how I live my real life, as I dont try to decept people saying I am not what I am ingame out of the game. I have my fun in real life the same way, seeing a lot of people preying on other people just to satisfy their sick needs.

And now comes someone (me) who actually has experience diagnosing and handling psychological issues.

The game just let you do what you want to do without consequences, and if you had that lack of accountability in real life too, you would do the same.

I am saying that people who enjoy make others miserable as means to feel superior do the same in real life.

you kind of people

derrogatory terms

Problem is, you are just doing what I say you kind of people do, as you using derrogatory terms to define me, in ways you cant be accurate, and using the nonsense of reverse argument, which is in itself means to just upset people.

Your time is coming.

Yeah, because YOU so righteous "it is a game people" do not understand what it means.

I am not saying people who kills people ingame would kill people in real life.

I am saying that people who enjoy make others miserable as means to feel superior do the same in real life.

Ingame that means gank, bait, destroy and scam.

In real life that means those jokes that only bring joy to some people at the expense of grief to others, not restricted to violent or damaging ones, but a lot of ways in which we know most people who does crappy things ingame use to do in real life.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTION OF COMBAT OR PVP

There are lots of people in eve who do pvp without aiming to just make people angry. There are people who pvp in a competitive and objective way, and usually are respected by their adversaries as much as by their allies. Taking joy on competition and square odds.