Crime & Punishment

Seems to me all they are doing is giving the SoE arc (for characters up to 30 days) the same status as career agents and their missions.


Although I can see the possibility where someone could actually break the rules if they didn't know what the SoE arc consists of.

I'd have to be careful as I've not done that arc.

Griefplay almost certainly does cause people to quit the game. Fortunately, you're simply abusing the term by applying to things that are in no way griefing. I'd wager people willfully spreading lies contribute to people leaving, too.

As a member of CODE. I feel griefed by that forum signature.

There are two distinct things: What the rules say and what the objectives of them are.

While the rules are there to be interpreted and understood textually, the objectives of those rules can be much deeper, or not.

We can say we have some classic types of rules used around the history, and then, it could be:

Disclaimer rules: Rules you put in place to excuse yourself of not having them. The rules you estabilish with the goal of preventing people from making claims over things you dont want them to be entitled to. Those rules are usually enforced only when such claims arise.

Moral Rules: Rules you put in place just to look good, but they are impossible or unlikely to be enforced, broken or complained about.

Straight Forward Rules: Rules as we understand it. They are there, to be followed, and will be enforced.

Silent Rules: Rules that arise from other rules, from culture or from necessity without being written or enforced.

TOSes, (lol) EULAs and all rule list around the globe have them all, and their geometry outline the objectives of having them, usually not achieved in its full, so they keep changing and adding the "case by case" itens.

The real aim of EVE Online is to make money, and the ways it can be done is by selling play time, selling play things, and selling merchandise. Either you get a lot of users, a lot of uses for money ingame, or a lot of RL appeal.

EVE playerbase is huge by its own standards, but it is not a very public game world wide. The RL appeal of EVE is practically non existent. You can get your favorite EVE shirt, publish your EVE things on social networks, and compare to putting up GW or WoW parafernalia, the public recognition of non hard core players is hugely skewed to the other games, and therefore EVE merchandise doesnt appeal as a symbol of belonging.

You get stuck with making people who are already in EVE mainly as source of income, followed by far by new players, followed by even farther by merchandise. You gotta figure out a way to keep new players while satisfying the existent ones, so you have as only foreseable future to create poles for these two audiences. The most practical way to do that is to create a hisec for new players and a low/null as a better suit for veterans to spend the money they acquire by enabling the play to pay players and generate income.

The only logical aim for EVE from this point on, when US and Europe are deep in crisis and therefore EVE is very expensive everywhere else, is to deeply entrench this two extremes.

The middle class of eve, the low life criminals, scammers and so on arent really a public to target because their very nature ingame is both a source of less spent from veterans and less attraction of new players, so they arent a concern in the rules and practices of EVE.

And that is the main reason you really would not expect the maturity of EVE to be focused on relaxing those policies, rather, they will tighten even more in the future as the player base EVE is destined is in one short description: THE PEOPLE WHO PAY And THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY.

Without the people who pay, there is no play to pay folks who play the game like a sweatshop worker to generate the ISK to monthly pay their plex. These people cant afford losses, and usually leave the game when they starting to lose a lot. Without them, there is no people to steal from, and then low life scum will simply have to pay for the game they have nothing to do, as if they face real pvp, they will be squashed. The rich people will be ingame but wont have people to buy the plex and stuff to get them ISK to fund their politics and wars. So EVE will be no more.

Resuming, the gankers, scamers and the likes of them are little to no concern in EVE, and the rules arent meant to satisfy them. The rules are to keep new players, and keep big alliances and big political forces. So deal with it.

While people misunderstand my goals expressing my ideas, I play eve exactly because it is a niche game and I dont have people dancing naked on Jita mailboxes for example.
That was just a statement to base the last line.
My real problem is not pvp or combat in general.
My problem is CCP enabling crappy mechanics to foment, as said before, "griefplay".

You do an important work for me. You fight people I otherwise would have to: Noob potential traders and merchants. You make all the steps I do to avoid you worhwhile in the driving of prices higher in some parts and lower in others. While I am posting non-sense in the forums for a couple hours I made almost 5 plex worth ISK by playing the price gaps created by risk transport routes.

Win-win situation. I make isk to fund alts, ships and corps, and you make ... whatever that is you make.

As people are saying in the other topic, everything in EVE is pvp, so I am all pvp as much as the next pilot.

But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture.

Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.

Now look at this beauty!

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