Ships & Modules

your comet gets caught in the first bubble and killed

If you dual prop a comet do it right

[Federation Navy Comet, Comet 2014]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

1MN Afterburner II
5MN Microwarpdrive II
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
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Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II
Small Transverse Bulkhead II

Hobgoblin II x3


7.2k EHP, 4 km/s, 318 dps with faction ammo, 348 with void. If you drop a hull rig for a dmg rig you trade 1k ehp around 30 dps. Or you can even go with meda DCU, AB, scram and MWD, drop the overdrive and put a 3rd magstab, and you get a monster 393 DPS.


Compared to Taranis, you lose bubble immunity, warp speed and sig bloom reduction, but you have pretty much identical damage and twice the tank (or way more dps and just massively more tank instead of TWICE, depending on fit), also a bit faster if he's not rocking polycarbs. If he is, speed's about the same, but comet beats ranis dps by a margin (around 50 dps). Also, surrprisingly, better align time. So, yeah, it is a better combat ship. Depends on what you gotta do with it.

Heavily camped null area (and you don't think you cam escape without bubble immunity)? Gotta catch something and warp speed counts? Taranis. Just want to murder ****? Comet.

any decent slicer pilot will **** up a sabre without breaking a sweat

and that's just the ez mode, a number of t1 frigs can 1v1 a sabre

Me thinks you're right. *Removes foot from mouth*

Still, if you need something that's immune to bubbles, Taranis is better.

Though if what Knuckles said is true, the next time I get into wardeccing I think i'll be looking into the Comet

..... and if we're on the subject of Taranis obsolescence you can fly this for about a third of the cost. It loses about 15-30 dps and about 380m/s overheated, tanks better and importantly, gets more fights.

[Incursus dual prop 'Ranis knock off]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Overdrive Injector System II

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive

Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S

Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I
Small Transverse Bulkhead I


Hobgoblin II x1

That said, the sig bloom reduction is not something to be sniffed at. Warping faster is useful if you chasing through a system but it is also useful if you've been called in to help a buddy as it can slip through the perodic D-Scan spamming. It's a little thing that can make a difference.

The Taranis is far from obsolete.



also.. It's the Atron hull, it's bitchin

also 2.. and outside of null (where I don't fly much if I'm honest) a +3 pg and a compact AB gets you neutrons which are much better for the sorts of fights this takes.

lol, T2 resist on a ceptor.

Imho Navy Frigates are almost always outclassing combat interceptors in any combat field, mostly because of their powerful slot layout. Interceptors have strong utility capabilities such as interdiction nullification, however it doesn't make it from the lack of strength in direct combat, at least for a solo pilot.

In larger fleets Ares does a better job anyway, so to answer the OP and always imho yes, Taranis is obsolete.

Nothing's really changed here. The combat interceptors tank and gank stats are broadly on par with t1 combat frigs (Raptor-Merlin, Taranis-Incursus). They're basically a t1 frig with specialised mobility stats. That's not really news. Basing comparisons on tank-gank, the navy frigs are always going to come out better, as they always did and as they do compared with a t1 frig. You don't fly combat inty's for extra tank-gank. You fly them because the mobility stats are giving you something you want.

That increase in warp speed is quite a powerful thing. It seriously reduces the effectiveness of D-Scan. If you are spamming D-Scan say every 20 secs, a combat inty can slip through that, were a navy frig is going to get spotted. Combat inty's have that 'just appearing without warning' ability. That's why you fly them.

I would say, if you believe them to be obsolete, your expectations may have been misplaced in the first place.

How do you catch something when you're going the same speed as it?

1v1 Comet will beat a Taranis.

However Taranis is a better tackler as it's faster. This also makes it better at slingshotting kiters. MWD sig bloom reduction bonus also means it can avoid damage better and is a better at avoiding larger guns from larger ships during the approach, and last but not least immunity to bubbles is kind of a big deal in Nullsec.