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Drones ships AFK ISK makers
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Vlad Draculesti
M4gnum P.I.
#21 - 2015-08-07 00:22:59 UTC
Shandra Manaya wrote:
i know little about the whole game yet, but one thing i noted, drone ships are afk isk makers.1 solution for bots and AFK rattting player is to make the drone attack only those targets that are locked. For all I know 99% of afk player rating use drone ships cuz drones are a kind of bot for itself. My neighbor who is also a player of eve online makes about 1bi a day with each of its rating accounts using ishtars, which he land in anommalies and then turns to the playstaion to play another game. Only in moments that he is really attentive to the game are gang roams and sov fleets which does not happen every day. so even though I may be wrong at some point and a lot of drone players will argument that this will broke the game or that will make other ships to op i sugest drone ships only attack locked targets. But I know I'm not entirely wrong.



Was your neighbor this guy?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/48228686/


I love AFK kills!
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-08-07 01:10:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
Galphii wrote:
The problem is more to do with the afk-able nature of pve content in eve, not the manner in which it's run. Give npc's more power, better AI and see what happens then (and yes, drifters show that better AI is coming to all npc's).

CCP switched to Sleeper AI for all NPCs years ago. So NPCs have had "better" AI for years.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#23 - 2015-08-07 04:54:22 UTC
I remember long ago that CCP was frowning on the tactic of spider-repping sentry drones set to aggressive. People were getting reported for that, but I don't recall the outcomes (as is usual, CCP never speaks of that).

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Panthe3 Black
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-08-07 05:03:29 UTC
as a current drone pilot, i dont afk because i live in null. but even so if i was a high sec clown i would still not afk. tooo many drones and or ships lost that way
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-08-07 05:27:03 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Why do we have auto-targetters in Eve again?

I used to think that they are okay high slot heat sink, but then realized that it's not how overheating works. Now I'm pretty confused.
Well, they increase maximum locked targets though.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#26 - 2015-08-07 07:48:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Yossarian Toralen
Someone said he makes isk AFK and I can't, something needs to be done about this problem but I don't know what the problem is but I can tell you how to stop it.

So what's the problem?
Helia Tranquilis
Confused Bunnies Inc
#27 - 2015-08-07 08:41:14 UTC
Gee what a great suggestion from OP. The fact that sentries automatically attack NPC's happen to be the only way to beat certain missions solo in any sensible way. Example: L4 Blocade Serpentis you spend more time permadamped than shooting. Gurista permajamming missions - estimated completion time... 23,5 hours. Roll

Inb4 bring friends, alpha them and use auto-targeting missiles.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#28 - 2015-08-07 08:41:58 UTC
We actually all have autotargeting systems inherently built into the game. Escape menu gives us that option anyway up to 12 targets. All autotargeters do is add up to 3 more targets than the ship is capable of as well as select when it is active or not.



As for afking isk printing its kinda funny. In ways you can always look at the best and laziest ways to make isk and scream for nerfs, or adapt and use it yourself. In that aspect its like RL. Look at banks and bankers literally creating money out of thin air and how people say its unfair and needs to be nerfed. But the bankers dont want that of course. Only the people not entitled to that income are.

Welcome to humanity 101 folks. Forum trolling in the age of social media for cultural revolutions that usually amount to nothing in the end.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#29 - 2015-08-07 12:23:34 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I remember long ago that CCP was frowning on the tactic of spider-repping sentry drones set to aggressive. People were getting reported for that, but I don't recall the outcomes (as is usual, CCP never speaks of that).

'

That was actually different. People were putting those ships (perma tanked with 5 small reppers in the highs, one for each sentry) in COSMOS and other high sec sites (like the Luminare Titan) that perma-respawn all day long, then going to work lol. 23.5 hours of isk making. It would be WAY WORSE now that we have mobil Tractor units btw


What made me mad was that I didn't think about it. But yea, CCP needed to fix that, it was incredibly broken. The 'fix' now i think is a warning, or they may have changed the way a few of those static sites work.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#30 - 2015-08-07 12:26:58 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
That's one Sisi gimmick gang I haven't tried: Fleet warp auto targeting carriers around with fighters out.


Great. Now CCP will want to nerf auto-targetters before anyone ever uses them.

Why do we have auto-targetters in Eve again?


I use auto target system every single day and have for the last 5 years. They are lazy mode for a machariel, as soon as one npc died, auto-target locks another one. They are especially useful in Guristas space (as soon as the jam fails, your targets relock). No more control+clicking for this 'Bear, no-siree.
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-08-07 13:28:01 UTC
I'm never afk with my Gila, when doing level 4 security missions Shocked /gasps Shocked

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#32 - 2015-08-07 19:13:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I remember long ago that CCP was frowning on the tactic of spider-repping sentry drones set to aggressive. People were getting reported for that, but I don't recall the outcomes (as is usual, CCP never speaks of that).

'

That was actually different. People were putting those ships (perma tanked with 5 small reppers in the highs, one for each sentry) in COSMOS and other high sec sites (like the Luminare Titan) that perma-respawn all day long, then going to work lol. 23.5 hours of isk making. It would be WAY WORSE now that we have mobil Tractor units btw


What made me mad was that I didn't think about it. But yea, CCP needed to fix that, it was incredibly broken. The 'fix' now i think is a warning, or they may have changed the way a few of those static sites work.




Ah I remember the full subject now. Thanks.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#33 - 2015-08-07 20:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2015-08-07 23:05:40 UTC
Is it even legal to leave a drone ship alone in belts all day?
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#35 - 2015-08-07 23:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Murkar Omaristos
If you continue to nerf all the loopholes that players enjoy, there will be no eve players left to play with. AFK ratting really isn't an issue, and nerfing drones will just drive more players away from this game (which is already losing numbers). Really, if it bothers you that people AFK rat, go gank them. Problem solved.
Shandra Manaya
Prision Break Inc.
#36 - 2015-08-13 23:21:36 UTC
Vlad Draculesti wrote:
Shandra Manaya wrote:
i know little about the whole game yet, but one thing i noted, drone ships are afk isk makers.1 solution for bots and AFK rattting player is to make the drone attack only those targets that are locked. For all I know 99% of afk player rating use drone ships cuz drones are a kind of bot for itself. My neighbor who is also a player of eve online makes about 1bi a day with each of its rating accounts using ishtars, which he land in anommalies and then turns to the playstaion to play another game. Only in moments that he is really attentive to the game are gang roams and sov fleets which does not happen every day. so even though I may be wrong at some point and a lot of drone players will argument that this will broke the game or that will make other ships to op i sugest drone ships only attack locked targets. But I know I'm not entirely wrong.



Was your neighbor this guy?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/48228686/


I love AFK kills!

no he uses only ishtars do afk rating
Panthe3 Black
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2015-08-13 23:30:43 UTC
Shandra Manaya wrote:
Vlad Draculesti wrote:
Shandra Manaya wrote:
i know little about the whole game yet, but one thing i noted, drone ships are afk isk makers.1 solution for bots and AFK rattting player is to make the drone attack only those targets that are locked. For all I know 99% of afk player rating use drone ships cuz drones are a kind of bot for itself. My neighbor who is also a player of eve online makes about 1bi a day with each of its rating accounts using ishtars, which he land in anommalies and then turns to the playstaion to play another game. Only in moments that he is really attentive to the game are gang roams and sov fleets which does not happen every day. so even though I may be wrong at some point and a lot of drone players will argument that this will broke the game or that will make other ships to op i sugest drone ships only attack locked targets. But I know I'm not entirely wrong.



Was your neighbor this guy?

https://zkillboard.com/kill/48228686/


I love AFK kills!

no he uses only isktars do afk rating



fixed it for you
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