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Null Sec WH change is literally AIDS
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Justin Cody
War Firm
#1 - 2015-08-06 03:47:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Cody
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That is AIDS. Thanks GOONbex and all the rest of the traitorous CSM who are making things worse.

Thanks Devs for going along with making W-Space in to AIDS space. Anoikis indeed. Cell death imminent. USTZ pvpers are moving to Thera since null secs are guaranteed there. nice nice nice.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-08-06 04:11:36 UTC
I see 3 nulls and a LS. what's the issue?

There is no Bob.

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Justin Cody
War Firm
#3 - 2015-08-06 04:15:40 UTC
Frigate Nulls and one is from a C2 - its garbage troll
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-08-06 04:25:03 UTC
Well in that case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9Hv6fJtgQ

There is no Bob.

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Justin Cody
War Firm
#5 - 2015-08-06 04:26:21 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Well in that case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E9Hv6fJtgQ


literally no one cares how many !@#$% you give.
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#6 - 2015-08-06 04:33:13 UTC
Null wormholes were nerfed to force more localized wormhole blueballs and content. Start up the eviction machine man!

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-08-06 04:47:54 UTC
*Shrug* Just move to Thera, problem solved for everyone.

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GizzyBoy
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#8 - 2015-08-06 05:05:29 UTC
these tears
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#9 - 2015-08-06 08:38:47 UTC
just live in c1 null static or c3 null static or c2 ns c5/c6 so you evryday get fresh null when ur done you simply put your gank tools in and do other stuff. dont complain face the fact
B0T0
Dzieci we mgle
#10 - 2015-08-06 08:59:02 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
just live in c1 null static or c3 null static or c2 ns c5/c6 so you evryday get fresh null when ur done you simply put your gank tools in and do other stuff. dont complain face the fact


But capitals!!! :( /s

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Mar5hy
BLOPSEC
#11 - 2015-08-06 11:09:42 UTC
The problem with thera is when the bears see their region on eve scout they stop ratting.



Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#12 - 2015-08-06 11:34:15 UTC
Mar5hy wrote:
The problem with thera is when the bears see their region on eve scout they stop ratting.





this is nowhere even close to true, Verge of Collapse literally has ppl farming ratters as a way to make isk.

here is stunts july killboard. Look, farming ishtars basing out of thera!

https://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=1399602&m=7&y=2015

stop whining.

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2015-08-06 13:03:54 UTC
wahahahahahahahahahahahaha you can't make this **** up.

This is some poe's law level posting though

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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#14 - 2015-08-06 13:10:53 UTC
Im bad & lazy, whats that dudes fit? I too want to farm ishtars
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2015-08-06 13:24:19 UTC
just click on "losses"

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Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#16 - 2015-08-06 13:29:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tim Nering
im just going to copy paste what i wrote on the c13 thread to save time.

im really disappointed with how wormholers have reacted to thera and frig holes since the hyperion update. We all live in wspace and very few corps have even taken the time to come up with frig doctrines to deal with frig holes. I mean really... how hard is it to get some frig logi and dps frigs and go pvp with a frig doctrine? You realize you can totally kill ppl with a good frig doctrine right?

NOW TO BE FAIR: frig holes are pretty annoying at times because we go in to someones home with frigs they drop t3s and when we jump back they come through with frigs and WE drop t3s (if they even come at all)..... doesn't work. This is really more a player issue anyway. But here at r3d fire we have adopted the "whatever fuk it" policy and just... fight t3s with enyos anyway. If we take one mentally challenged loki to hell with us... gg.

The other thing is thera. So much complaining for a wormhole meta that is very unique in new eden. Lots of null roaming, and communities formed there and apparently we are too good for it? <.< If you guys are so furious with how our null connections got cut, ever consider going on eve scout and connecting your chain to thera via close kspaces? adapt or die. You are usually always less than 10j from thera. like right now r3d fire is 4j from thera and we have it marked on siggy how to get there.

as far as c13s, no it doesn't appeal to us high class dwellers. But it is REALLY appealing to others. particularly the very quiet nomadic wormholers. I have some of them mailing me asking for entrances to c13s. i find and lead them in when i find a good one. Also i dont buy the "oh its just for farming so it should be deleted". LOL ever heard of c6 space?

Things that are actually totally screwed up:
1. why are there ice belts in frig wormhole systems? did nobody at ccp even think this through?
2. c13 pvp is instapop vs instapop.. ugh forget it.

Things that wormholers need to adapt to:
1. fly some damn (not t3 dessie) frig doctrines. you might actually have fun *gasp*
2. would it kill you to solo slicer roam out of the frig null? no. maybe a little cruor + succ roam? idk ffs have fun! jesus....

sometimes i feel like im the only person who likes this game

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Justin Cody
War Firm
#17 - 2015-08-06 19:04:10 UTC
Tim Nering wrote:
im just going to copy paste what i wrong on the c13 thread to save time.

im really disappointed with how wormholers have reacted to thera and frig holes since the hyperion update. We all live in wspace and very few corps have even taken the time to come up with frig doctrines to deal with frig holes. I mean really... how hard is it to get some frig logi and dps frigs and go pvp with a frig doctrine? You realize you can totally kill ppl with a good frig doctrine right?

NOW TO BE FAIR: frig holes are pretty annoying at times because we go in to someones home with frigs they drop t3s and when we jump back they come through with frigs and WE drop t3s (if they even come at all)..... doesn't work. This is really more a player issue anyway. But here at r3d fire we have adopted the "whatever fuk it" policy and just... fight t3s with enyos anyway. If we take one mentally challenged loki to hell with us... gg.

The other thing is thera. So much complaining for a wormhole meta that is very unique in new eden. Lots of null roaming, and communities formed there and apparently we are too good for it? <.< If you guys are so furious with how our null connections got cut, ever consider going on eve scout and connecting your chain to thera via close kspaces? adapt or die. You are usually always less than 10j from thera. like right now r3d fire is 4j from thera and we have it marked on siggy how to get there.

as far as c13s, no it doesn't appeal to us high class dwellers. But it is REALLY appealing to others. particularly the very quiet nomadic wormholers. I have some of them mailing me asking for entrances to c13s. i find and lead them in when i find a good one. Also i dont buy the "oh its just for farming so it should be deleted". LOL ever heard of c6 space?

Things that are actually totally screwed up:
1. why are there ice belts in frig wormhole systems? did nobody at ccp even think this through?
2. c13 pvp is instapop vs instapop.. ugh forget it.

Things that wormholers need to adapt to:
1. fly some damn (not t3 dessie) frig doctrines. you might actually have fun *gasp*
2. would it kill you to solo slicer roam out of the frig null? no. maybe a little cruor + succ roam? idk ffs have fun! jesus....

sometimes i feel like im the only person who likes this game


To answer your question on the frig holes - I am one of the few in my corp that likes frig holes. That means we can't do much with them because of the current cruiser meta. It isn't a problem with the hole so much as with the meta and the culture. I'd like to do more AF's and destroyers but you know how people are. Cruisers project damage much better than anything save maybe the harpy. And the harpy meta is stale.

The null connections got cut for no good reason. There was no play testing and no dev commentary. Simply put it went too far. C13/C16 are all well and good for what they are. Honestly the connections to them from W-space are too few for me to make regular use of. If C5/6 had C13/c16 dual statics maybe it would be different.

Frig doctrines are fun and I've used em in low sec, high and null in the last 10+ years of play. However the WH nerf was without good cause and people can say I'm crying about it or whatever but they don't have a cogent argument for it other than to make their carriers safer when NPCing.

C5 > Null advantage was primarily mass driven. we could surprise drop a dread on people who otherwise thought they were safe behind cyno jams. And a dread appearing without a cyno is a big surprise most of the time. Also it let us put out rather large T3 or even moderate BS fleets from time to time.

The answer is not to downgrade our home hole to a C3/2/1 with a static null. That is just out of the question. We do use thera as a connection some times. Other times it isn't any more convenient than rolling our current chain.

Also there is the problem of those who do not log in except via jabber pings. You all know those people who won't go more than 10 jumps for anything short of a capital or super kill. If I thought I could break that attitude then I would. But I can't. So any null exit more than 4 or 5 WH transitions away from the home hole is seen as distant. This is especially true when roaming with 3-5 guys and you need reinforcements.
Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#18 - 2015-08-06 19:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tim Nering
Justin Cody wrote:

Also there is the problem of those who do not log in except via jabber pings. You all know those people who won't go more than 10 jumps for anything short of a capital or super kill. If I thought I could break that attitude then I would. But I can't. So any null exit more than 4 or 5 WH transitions away from the home hole is seen as distant. This is especially true when roaming with 3-5 guys and you need reinforcements.


If this is true, you should leave corp. That environment sounds terrible.


being "too elite" in this game is so bad. let it go, admit to yourself that we are all sht and go out and find something fun to do.
find something cool that you CAN do and go do it. get fuckin pumped and fuckin do it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCwtzJvza5U this video is what get me excited to frigate solo, i watch it way too much. fuk being elite, just do somethin man. If you let go of being elite ull have more fun i promise.

also i do not defend ccps decision. its sucks, makes me have less options in a place where my options are always limited by mass/time ect. I just find that im still having fun, finding new cool things to do. im really digin pirate faction frigs lately and am making a lot of friends in thera.

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2015-08-06 19:41:36 UTC
tbh it sounds like 50% of the problem is the people.

They probably were too harsh in their nerfing, but I doubt they'll do anything regardless of how loud everyone complains.

Legit question, how often did you drop a dread right into the system your null hole let out in versus cyno-ing to a system next door to a jammed system and taking gates, or taking gates all together?

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Ginger Yume
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-08-06 21:27:27 UTC
Tim Nering wrote:
sometimes i feel like im the only person who likes this game

I like the cut of your jib.
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