Warfare & Tactics

who would need a web if the ishtars they use only goes 200m/s, its all about the tank they have and to get through it, so no damage control either because you cant go through their shield boost without enough dps, you need ballistic control to make them stronger in the lows, its all about their pith large shield Booster, look at the stats...

the idea was to drain his cap cause the stratios out there are doing the same, but 2 neuts is not engough, 3 neuts won't go well with a tengu thats why the second fit was dps based but that fell victim to a bait... a legit ratting ishtar whould die to that... they easy tank far over 400 em damage with the fit they use, you also Need to be quick killing it because they cry for their friends as soon as you arrive on grid, you won't have more than 60-100 seconds until 3 other ships help the guy

what I'm searching for is a superweapon for solo pilots to constantly kill goonproperty, at the moment i got my infinitybomber fit, this one they are unable to catch, wherelse it gives me a clean possibility to kill ton's of haulers, I wanted to try with the tengu again to take care of their ratting ships but at the moment this is not the weapon I'm searching for, with cloak you do not get the 700dps needed to make the kill, unfiting in space I tried but its **** you will loose the ship too often because of their supporting fleets

I'm not searching for challanging pvp, I want to do maximum damager with the lowest effort, until anybody can tell me something better, I will stick to the bomber and shoot their haulers and navy vexors, the isk damage done far exceeds the isk loss I may have from time to time, its all about that

This thread made me chuckle. Also, that tengu fit gave me eye cancer.

Speaking as a solo pilot. You ALWAYS expect the blob. Your no web, LSE cluster of a tengu coudnt kill any tackle that warps in to save their homie. Also, rage missiles apply for **** unless the target is webbed down. Maybe you arent killing them because you cant apply your damage?

You remind of the people who ***** about missiles applying poorly because you fit a 100k EHP drake with only a scram. Missiles NEED webs, regardless of if that cruiser is only moving at 200m/s. What happens when the sabre comes in and bubbles you, and you cant apply dps to kill him? Well.. we already know.

Solo can be difficult, but your problem isnt "solo". Its your fits. Or youve become predictable to your prey. Once you are predictable, you are dead.

So much lulz. You are always good for a laugh. Salty indeed when your "elite" pvp title is called into question. As far as my KB, i give 0 *****. Im not a wannabe pro pvper like you. In fact, didnt you just mention since you cant kill goon's ratters (lol), you were going to hunt their industrials? So.. gonna pad your KB with things that dont shoot back and claim to be "good", yet you cant even kill their ratting ships? *cough*scrub*cough*

Good job digging up a KM from 1.5 years ago though just to find something to be fit your argument. I did get more training, 1.5 years worth. Also, you convienently left out the part in the KM (which you linked) that there was a griffin there. Hard to apply webs when you are jammed. But dont let that get in the way of your sperging.

Also flying a turret ship that can MISS, as opposed to a missile ship that cant are 2 very different things. Turrets can hit with transversal, missiles apply using webs, rigor, tp etc. Also, i would LOVE to see you fly an arty ship. I bet you would make the dankest fits. No webs, with sebos most likely. Then you will post a tearful thread about not volleying a goon shuttle, and then getting ganked by a battle badger.

Now, wheres the griffin in your KM? Nope, i dont see it. Just a gila and a sabre. If that tengu had an active tank with a web, you might have been able to kill both. But hey, if you dont want to listen thats on you. But dont make threads flowing with salty tears about how you cant kill a ratter in a T3. Scrub.

Yes, im seeing how well your fits for "mass" amounts of damage are working so far. 2 lost tengus. If you want massive amounts of damage, fit polarized launchers. For the rest of us with a brain, we will fit a tank with utility for survival against multiple targets.

Stitch retorting with thinly veiled fury Rawr! Lulz! Scrubs! *Cough* Caps Lock!

Id wager the one making personal attacks and using kiddie terms in attempt to provoke is the saltier one among you two. Might want to stop doing that.

you both don't understand what I'm searching for and I won't explain it again, your bla bla is useless to me

blocked as well

Im not surprised from Harry "trolling" forever. He shiptoasts quite frequently in F&I.

As to Riven's comment, IDGAF. You can try to spin it however you want. Someone wants to try and be condescending to me, and call me "kid" or to shutup (when advice is given), when his KB is full of ratters and indy kills. Then tries to act like a "pro pvp" player is going to get a reality check. Sry if he got his feelings hurt and felt the need to block me. Dont act holier than thou, and then get butthurt when someone calls you out for being dumb.

I might lose ships, but thats because i fight people who can fight back. Im not trying to pad my KB for good K/D ratio, i fly ships to get fights. Funny thing is, im ranked better on KB than harry, but he wants to say my KB is worse .

Fix your fits harry, then you might be able to farm goons more effectively.

Jfc this post is adorable.

I looked into again and found nothing. There isn't a ship that can solo that ishtar within one minute and be able to actually sneak into Deklein. Sure, there are battleships and such, but those will never get a chance to get there.

What's more important, if you manage to come up with a fit that actually works we will bait you till you give up. It's very easy to just put 2 people on standby ready to screw you over the moment you show on grid. All that is needed is a point on the ishtar and 2 guys waiting in the station. If you don't want to lose multiple ships this way you have to go Sa Matra way and fly around in 5 inties. That is a whole different level of autism and I don't wish that on anyone though.

You don't really understand application do you?

500 paper dps, especial on a missile boat isn't going to translate into 500 actual DPS. The Ishtar is already going double the speed of the Explosive velocity of Cal Navy. That already means he's not applying full dps. That's not accounting for the Ishtar high kinetic resists which is base at 85%. So if he's using Kinetic missiles, which he could be as the Tengu is bonuses to those missiles.



So yes he should fit a web. And you promoting idiotic behavior like not fitting for full tackle, on a solo ship, is idiotic.


EDIT: Nevermind didn't see you where Goonswarm.

Triple nuet Stratios won't put out enough damage to kill the Ishtar before the rats & drones kill you. I'm pretty sure this fit was designed to ignore solo hunters so people can continue ratting AFK & not really care about things.