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Banking Industry in Eve - just small changes to the Contracting System

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Croda UK
Ironforge Commerce Guild
#1 - 2015-08-05 22:13:04 UTC
I wrote this on my blog marketsforisk earlier, though I have copied it all below:


OK, just glance at the Courier Contract written below and then read on - all will hopefully be explained!

I write the following Courier Contract:

Item i want hauled: [-900m ISK] (yes, negative 900m ISK)
Ship to: [Same station] (yes, not moving it anywhere)
Reward: [50m ISK]
Collateral: [-1 Plex] (yes, negative 1 Plex)
Expiration: [3 days]
Days to Complete: [1 month exactly] (yes, not less than but equal to)


If you accept this then you would receive negative 900m to haul (i.e. give me 900m ISK) whilst the you put negative 1 Plex up as Collateral (i.e. i put 1 Plex up as Collateral) and i put 50m ISK aside as collateral for the fees.

After 1 month exactly you complete the "haul" and return the -900m to me (i.e. i give you 900m) and i award you with 50m fees, and so i get back my 1 Plex Collateral.

If the contact fails then you get the Plex.


The problem with a Bank today in Eve

At its simplest, banks bring together people with surplus money (savers) with people who want to borrow money (borrowers).

The bank acts as a middle man – it borrows from the savers for an annual fee (called the saving rate) and lends to the borrowers for an annual fee (called the lending rate). That spread (lending rate less saving rate) covers the cost of loans going bad (defaults) and the costs of the bank and so gives the profits.

As security, the bank takes first charge over assets of the borrower (not collateral per se but the right to take over an asset if the loan goes bad).

The security for the savers is a national Central Bank which guarantees a certain level of deposits and requires the Bank to deposit cash with it plus hold liquid cash.

What Eve does not have is that Central Bank.

Actually, that is not quite true. Eve does have certain trusted third parties that act as the middle man when loans are taken out, for example.

But you get my drift - currently there is nothing to stop a bank just walking off with the deposits savers have placed in it.


One small addition to the Contracting System could change that

However, with a small change to the contracting system we could have a banking industry up and running.

The small change needed would be for Courier Contracts to be allowed to courier to and from the same station, be able to Courier negative ISK, for negative Collateral and the "days to complete" be set as exact times.

So, lets assume i am a Bank and you are a Saver, and i am offering 50m interest over one month for 900m deposits (=5.6% interest).

So, as a Bank i would put in the Contact system:

Item i want hauled: [-900m]
Ship to: [Same station]
Reward: [50m]
Collateral: [-1 Plex]
Expiration: [3 days]
Days to Complete: [1 month exactly]


A saver would accept that and so receive negative 900m to haul (i.e. give me 900m ISK) whilst the saver puts negative 1 Plex up as Collateral (i.e. i put 1 Plex up as Collateral) and i put 50m ISK aside as collateral for the fees.

In effect, i have received 850m (900 - 50) whilst one of my Plexes is tied up for one month. I need to turn the 850m into 950m to breakeven.

After 1 month the Saver completes the "haul" and returns the -900m to me (i.e. i give the saver 900m) and i award them 50m fees, and so i get back my 1 Plex Collateral.

If the contact fails then the Saver gets the Plex.

In effect, i have paid the saver 50m interest for 900m 1 month deposit.


That is a Bond, how does it become a Bank?

The above is actually more like a bond (fixed loan with collateral) - turning this into a bank merely requires a series of the above to happen.

The Bank could write new courier contracts every 7 days (i.e. 5 courier contacts on day 1, another 5 on day 8, another 5 on day 15, another 5 on day 22, another 5 on day 29 etc etc giving deposits of 21bn) and so about 20% of the deposits are withdrawn each week (5 contracts complete) hopefully replaced by an inflow from the 5 new courier contacts accepted.

And so we have a bank.

If anyone can see a flaw in my thinking then i am all ears.


Who would want to be act as such a Bank?

Business players (traders / manufacturers) in a corp who had surplus Plex and could give a steady interest income to corp mates who had other things to do (liek blow up ships). In effect, good traders / manufacturers / business players would be of value to corps looking to provide additional benefits to members.

Anyone who had surplus Plex (like me) and just wanted the fun of being a Bank.


What is the downside for the saver?

If the price of Plex falls below the deposit value - then the Bank would be tempted to take all the ISK to another character and so the contract would fail leaving the Saver with a lower valued Plex.

But the point here is that perhaps we have could have a system in place where Savers are much better protected and so able to participate in a banking system with much more confidence.


How does this add content to the game?

ISK lying around unused would be put to use by the Bank to try and earn the interest to pay the Saver.

Failed banks would see Plex be transferred to someone who is more likely to use it (as game time or to sell to generate ISK).


What will this do for the price of Plex?

If we assumed some banks fail then Plex would be transferred and some likely sold - so, if anything, puts downward pressure on Plex. Or you could have a load of players wanting to become Banks and so buying Plex for the collateral.

author of the blog marketsforisk discussing making ISK in Eve Online.

goodlady Smith
TheCrazy88s
#2 - 2015-08-05 23:56:36 UTC
+1 cos i want to be a bank lol

Thoughts -

Dont think you have to limit this to Plex can be any collateral.

Contracts should just be set as 'collateral' contracts rather then hauling so it doesn't mess up people actually trying to find hauling contracts (assume this is simply a pick list / config change to add a new type)

The contracts should put the collateral into limbo - when the isk is paid against the contract then the contract completes and the isk (with interest amount set) is paid is deposited into the Banker and the collateral is released back to the Debtor.

If a contract fails the item should be delivered to where the contract is accepted from.
- This is important or you will have people failing the contract in player controlled station with no way for the banker to retrieve the items

Contracts should have a minimal value or a delivery fee against. Or it will put the haulers out of business by people just failing contracts.

Tax on contracts is currently too high and needs to be lowered for this service.

Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums WTS... Smiles

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
#3 - 2015-08-06 01:26:32 UTC
My bank has been operating just fine for over a year without this contract idea...also, this sounds like a full reserve banking model, where the bank has in assets equal to or more what it holds in deposits, and that is a detrimental policy for all banks (bit not for its clients!). Granted I haven't fully read the post, but it sounds like you're draining sand out of the sandbox.

Banks offer bonds, as well as monthly savings accounts, and this idea only solves fixed duration bonds, not variable savings rates and nonmaturing bonds. Give us back our sand!
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2015-08-07 16:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
In your example the bank decides what it wants for collateral.
The problem I see with this is that the market of persons who are the possible customers of the loan will be limited in what they has to offer as collateral. Few will have PLEX, most will have less liquid assets.
So the system would work much better if the person needing the loan could create the loan offer with what they have as the collateral.

e.g. I have a bunch of battleships I don't want to liquidate. I make a loan request offer that asks for large lump of ISK, includes the battleships as collateral, and specifies how much interest I will pay on top of the principal to get my collateral back and complete the loan.

If you flip it like this then the loan request offers could be created and left on the open market for the market to decide.

If it is not flipped the loan requester has to approach the banker to agree collateral and the contract would then have to be tailor created in each case.

The flipping reduces time and effort, and by being open market contracts are then subject to open market forces. e.g. more over collateralised, and higher returns contracts would be preferred by the market.