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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#21 - 2015-08-05 05:13:48 UTC
Razielkh wrote:
Tarojan wrote:


Op says hey guys lets help these new bros find their way. Whats hypocritical about shooting at them while offering them advise? The best way to learn is by doing...



You are so cute and naïve. May I lick you? P


Depends. Do you like raspberries and are you allergic to nuts?

Will gank for food
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-08-05 05:23:28 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P

Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm Sad


Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil.

Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#23 - 2015-08-05 05:38:09 UTC
Razielkh wrote:
Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.

What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.

Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites.


Either way.....content for everyone. Which is why I play.....and probably why they play.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#24 - 2015-08-05 06:35:10 UTC
Razielkh wrote:
Yes, throw your alts in the corporation so your alliance and the rest of the vultures can pad their killboards and farm newbros for kills. If you truly cared about new players coming to EVE and making content for all of us on the long run, you would do something about the swarm of decs they got from the merc community and "PVP" groups.

What's happening now is loads of new people coming to eve, trying out some fleet fights without any knowledge of the basic game mechanics, proper FCing and/or proper skills/fits and getting killed left and right as soon as they undock. My guess is that more than half of them will not stick with EVE, as they are not allowed to make any progress, try different aspects of EVE, grow with skills points, make some isk, explore their options, etc.

Kudos to Arumba for bringing hundreds of new players to EVE, which sadly will not stay for long, but for everyone else, stop being such effin' hypocrites.

have you see how many decs have been dropped Blink

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#25 - 2015-08-05 07:09:58 UTC
So this devolved quickly. Trosken Neirfallas and Noragen Neirfallas my 2 main PvPers. I would like you too look at thier killboards for the last week and tell me if A you notice more or less kills on the newbros happening in the last week and B if I appear to be actively doing anything to help one side or the other.

I am providing as much PvP content through leading fleets and handing out free ships (I got a dreaded goon helping me produce and haul them atm huzar for goons Blink) to go and die in and maybe take somebody with them. The guys I've been taking killed a 1.5bil stratios today while I was asleep. I was so proud of them it was awesome and 2 used my free ships from the roam about 8-12 hours before the kill. Thanks Mags, Skippy and an anonymous doner for the donations so far Totaling to 550 mil isk and 200 frigates 100 fitted 100 not. Also thanks to the JF pilots helping the corp with cost price jumps to the island atm. Every ship will be used to die in. They may kill other ships too with luck Lolbut my only goal is newbies having fun and subbing. Anybody who doubts this get a toon into the corp and come on a fleet. They need as many people generating content for groups of corpies as possible. I can do lowsec roams and anti wardec fleets. If you want to show them nullsec or other aspects of eve (while the CEO isn't trying to organize content of course) then do it. Just remember the leadership is very proud and doesn't take criticism well so only offer advice to them when asked. otherwise just help the newbros Big smile

PS Marmite tried to kill my Fred main today Blink

PSS Razielkh I challenge you to do more for the newbros corp then me or anybody else. Get in corp and get a helping Blink

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Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#26 - 2015-08-05 07:27:43 UTC
Razielkh wrote:

Yes I agree, placing them in action and pvp rather than letting them bore themselves to death mining is much better.


One wonders where all your bitching is coming from, then. Apparently taking steps towards helping them is bad, and we should just get our hats in our hands and ask the people deccing them, with our eyes full of tears, to please leave those guys alone? Or what? Because aside from bitching about what other people are doing, I can't figure out what it is you're actually trying to say.


Quote:

All I am saying is give them some slack. A moment to breathe, catch their breath, etc. Stomping them until they fall apart as soon as they started playing and making content leads nowhere. Think about the longer run, that's all.

Maybe I am just crazy thinking that EVE could use more players... Shocked


Then quit complaining about what other people are doing, and do something yourself.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#27 - 2015-08-05 07:44:45 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P

Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm Sad


Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil.

Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts.

I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first Big smile

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#28 - 2015-08-05 07:50:42 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P

Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm Sad


Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil.

Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts.

I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first Big smile


I gave them some advice when they asked about it on reddit a week or so ago, but I did not follow up.

Did they ever start training a group to use ewar? That would be a good move on their part, since it's a force multiplier that is both non-dependent on huge amounts of skillpoints, and is scales well with numbers.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#29 - 2015-08-05 07:58:48 UTC
Oh my.
This may be entertaining.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#30 - 2015-08-05 08:07:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Do not throw isk at the corp. He gets 1 plex for every sub due to a buddy link and the corp at this point in time is not handing out ships. If time isn't your thing isk sent to Trosken Neirfallas will go to buying more t1 fit ships for them if you really really want but I'd rather time if you have it to spare :P

Not fake edit: More ideally we could work on some fits and get them shipped in by rff or something because being on a hs island in aridia its a nightmare getting the bits for the ships atm Sad


Hull tanked railgun catalysts and Derptrons (basically Atrons built around an MSE) have worked out well for Galmil.

Just remember to bring antimatter AND iron for the battalysts.

I'd be happy with them training a couple of core skills up and utilizing the t1 stuff well first Big smile


I gave them some advice when they asked about it on reddit a week or so ago, but I did not follow up.

Did they ever start training a group to use ewar? That would be a good move on their part, since it's a force multiplier that is both non-dependent on huge amounts of skillpoints, and is scales well with numbers.

Their is no real direction ATM or organized content. Hence this thread. They don't take the usual criticism we give out and the way we do it. I've stayed out of that and focus on content providing instead.

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#31 - 2015-08-05 08:09:35 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
Oh my.
This may be entertaining.

I've fleeted with you don. You got more ALTs then I've eaten hot meals too Blink. Come teach your snuggly waysBig smile

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Kooshti
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-08-05 08:18:27 UTC
hats off for caring about the newbies Cool
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#33 - 2015-08-05 08:32:02 UTC
You're teaching them to make friends and organize things. These are extremely important. Somewhere they need to learn how far they can trust people in this game, and with what. Better they learn that now with cheap things than later with expensive ones.

Another really important thing I can see is to teach them how to analyze things for themselves and theorycraft without just Googling stuff. You'd be surprised how many people think Google is a substitute for being able to actually pick apart and sort through data and learn at least basic mechanics.

A signature :o
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#34 - 2015-08-05 08:48:06 UTC
Well the best part about my fleets is trust ins't an issue since i provide the ships anyways Lol

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2015-08-05 08:50:01 UTC
Weirdest corp infiltration ever.
It's like breaking into someone's house when they're not home and doing their dishes and laundry, then cleaning the place up without stealing anything.

I approve.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#36 - 2015-08-05 11:46:33 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Weirdest corp infiltration ever.
It's like breaking into someone's house when they're not home and doing their dishes and laundry, then cleaning the place up without stealing anything.

I approve.


When I lived in Las Vegas, there was actually a burglar that would do this, and all they would take is eggs, bread, and milk. For some reason I will never understand, the cops nicknamed this person "The Tooth Fairy".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-08-05 11:53:46 UTC
From this thread I have learned:

Noragen is like the tooth fairy of Las Vegas.

But he still has it together in his head better than Raz.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#38 - 2015-08-05 11:55:05 UTC
Remember, nothing says I love you like a killmail.

Bear

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#39 - 2015-08-05 13:04:41 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Remember, nothing says I love you like a killmail.

Bear

They have more then enough people to kill them though atm. Until it becomes a contract or Tora points at the island and says CRUSH I will keep to the helping and not the hunting Big smile. But yeah CCP got it right Big smileBig smile

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Razielkh
Intelligence Operation NetCorp
#40 - 2015-08-05 15:17:42 UTC
Mobadder Thworst wrote:
From this thread I have learned:

Noragen is like the tooth fairy of Las Vegas.

But he still has it together in his head better than Raz.



Thought you already knew that from before. My head is twisted by all the chaos we make. Shocked

If Noragen is really trying to help them rather then gather the masses for the slaughter and kill padding, more power to him. Perhaps its in my nature to think that everyone has an agenda, over my better judgement. Blink