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Yep, I cant wait for the mittani to spin this one

And once again, it's not that it can;t be done, it's that it's boring. A game that is boring is destined to die. Just look at it mate. A new sov system and the player count hardly blips.

It call comes down to commitment though. An attacker is committing a trollceptor because they choose to, while the defenders are forced to commit considerable time sending each one on their way. It's like sitting around highsec shooting gank ships. The attackers don't care that they are losing them and keep sending them laughing while you waste your time. If you can't see how a system that allows people in a shitfit interceptor to be a threat to contest space that actually requires a response is a bad idea, there's no hope for you. I imagine they will make serious changes to it since it's clear that most people find it insanely boring.

Yeah, I'm thinking that it could be good if, when an attacker activates an Entosis Link, it must be subject to engagement by whatever the defenders decide to bring until the node is captured... CCP has already taken a step in that direction by preventing warp while an Entosis is active. But something fast can burn away in a straight line, and I don't like restricting speed artificially. What about restricting how from from the node the Entosis ship can travel? Like, the range of the Entosis? So an interceptor orbiting a node at 7 km/s can continue to do so while using a T1 Entosis - but could never get further than 25km away from the node? Similarly for T2, with a 250 km limit. That gives the Entosing ship the space to operate within its limits and use its appropriate tactics in combat - but for the duration of the capture, it's subject to remaining on grid and cannot simply burn away in a straight line. And to be clear, I'm talking about the capture of the node, not just an Entosis cycle. In other words, like a reverse POS shield, anybody can land on-grid with a contested node, but any ship with an Entosis Link mod fitted cannot leave grid until the node is either fully capture of defended. Shenanigans with mobile depots would, of course, be possible. But preventing an Entosis ship from leaving I think can provide for some interesting tactics... including traps!

One modification I might agree with - ships with entosis mods fitted lose their nullification ability so trollceptors can be bubbled.

Wouldn't really change much for us though because we send our entosis ships with small gang protection looking for a skirmish.

Now that is an interesting suggestion....

Look at that, Teckos Pech praising anything that makes it more difficult for people to do guerilla hit and run type attacks. Love the self-interested posting.

The Imperium has just got on with it and set up their systems ADM, I have especially noted that EXE seems to have been rather efficient at it. Having done that you just have to maintain it and blap the odd person who won't be able to do anything really in your prime time with an interceptor. With your high ADM its is perhaps working as intended because to RF your systems someone will have to bring a fleet for grid control. I have to ask did Mo threaten to hot drop any one not ratting, quite a reverse in policy that one.

For the past couple of weeks I looked in detail at Estoria which is of some interest to me, even the die hard mission runners in Stain are in Sov space grinding, and many of their PvP'rs too, its only a few pipe systems which are getting RF'd but that is more to keep them occupied so we can do what we want, those people no longer have free reign to camp us in Stain because we can cause them pain back on the systems they have sov on but don't use, so instead of hassling us, they are saving their systems.

If you make it easier to kill something like you suggest, then you remove the ability for people to fight back against harassment by doing the same back, hell I have a way of being as annoying as AFK cloaky campers to those people who just dropped an AFK toon in every system I used, and I rather like it and you lot are moaning about it, typical.

Stop moaning, your coalition is doing it right and many others too, and another thing to note, the change in attitudes in this game will be even greater when the new structures come in, especially when they are destructible. This means that people should keep watching and learning, while waiting for that structure change to occur and then see how that pans out. Personally I think it requires certain groups to die due to boredom before 0.0 can be fun again. I find the concept of people like the Imperium, PL and NCDOT doing whack a mole on any small sov holder pretty boring and that requires a long period of boredom for these groups in only finding one system to hell camp or people using sov in a nomadic way.

CCP allowed Titans and Supers to ruin their game, coming back from that will take time.

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That is a better post, I am not simplisticly getting a boner over it, I am telling you that I can now get back at the people who could and did AFK cloaky camp me with impunity which is more boring than what you described, now I get into a specific fit Loki with 250 km range 5,000 m/s speed, nullified cloaked and cause them pain back on the systems they do not use. You know that I will not do it on systems they use.

Many people in hisec are bored with the Goon lead gank campaigns in hisec, its not interesting for that group on the receiving end either and it has resulted in people leaving the game, should CCP nerf ganking no, should they make adjustments yes, but they haven't.

In terms of Pure Blind, there is a weak spot, poor systems with low ADM which are difficult to get up to a defensible level and with good reason, its bad space. It is also border system skirmish warfare, but I spot checked a number of systems before I found a Condor kill with an enosis link. But is there combat also around the mining sites or the anoms? That is also part of the battleground, not just the structure.

I think the downward trend has also stopped, the numbers were showing more of a loss of people doing stuff in hisec, activity in null has increased, however that may be people doing frantic work to get their ADM up. I am skeptical too, not so much at the issues people here have detailed starting off with the OP, but more to do with the large numbers of people that will come in and hell camp anyone who sets up in systems that they can defend. Add that to destructible stations which may end up being designed to be loot fonts then one has to say that it will fail.

I think its too early for changes like you suggested. But also at some point there will be a fight between people who actually want the space and hopefully without third parties ruining it and then we shall see. But with a load of very organised and highly equipped bored people looking to kill something in this game I wonder if it would get the chance to actually happen.

This system needs time to settle down, the Imperium are leading the way in how they have structured themselves, but I see similar developments in Estoria too but I would so love to see a real border war develop in Pure Blind. But I doubt it will happen because the same massive super and titan blob also looms over this system, because at the end of the day it is all about grid control in systems that people want to keep and in that case you will get big fights, but perhaps you guys won't get them because you are just too strong...

And once again, it's not that it can;t be done, it's that it's boring. A game that is boring is destined to die. Just look at it mate. A new sov system and the player count hardly blips.

Maybe boring to you but defenetly not to me. I am on the offensive all day long. You are on the defensive. Thats what you get for trying to defend a system thats you dont live in. I got more than I can handle and I am having fun every night.
Its early days yet and people are still working it out. Besides other parts are left also to deploy.
I am pritty sure once people realise that they cannot defend system that are too far they will let go of them.

Have to admit that this has me quite concerned. At this stage I'm less interested in who is right and who is wrong and more interested in why people aren't logging back in.

The new sov system needs to work from a player count perspective. So far, it ain't.